A Question I Never Tire of Answering

A reader I hope is young and not being serious asks:

Let me get this straight: you, a presumably rational individual who writes science fiction stories for a living, sincerely believes that the creator of our 13.7 billion year-old universe of 70 sextillion stars magically impregnated a human female about 2000 years ago – a woman who then gave birth to a son named Jesus who performed miracles, rose from the dead and served as the creator’s messenger to humanity?

This might make for a mildly interesting, if outlandish, science fiction story, but the source of your belief system? If you’re going to base your life philosophy on absurd myths, why not choose something a bit more interesting? Why not master the Dark Side of the Force or the Golden Path, becoming a Sith Lord or a God-Emperor and strive to rule a Galaxy? Why choose something as ridiculous and wretched as Christianity? I must admit I am rather perplexed…

My answer:

I am more than a presumably rational individual, I am a champion of atheism who gave arguments in favor of atheism so convincing that three of my friends gave up their religious belief due to my persuasive reasoning powers, and my father stopped going to church.

Upon concluding through a torturous and decades-long and remorseless process of logic that all my fellow atheists were horribly comically wrong about every basic point of philosophy, ethics and logic, and my hated enemies the Christians were right, I wondered how this could be. The data did not match the model.

Being a philosopher and not a poseur, I put the matter to an empirical test.

For the first time in my life, I prayed, and said. “Dear God. There is no logical way you could possibly exist, and even if you appeared before me in the flesh, I would call it an hallucination. So I can think of no possible way, no matter what the evidence and no matter how clear it was, that you could prove your existence to me. But the Christians claim you are benevolent, and that my failure to believe in you inevitably will damn me. If, as they claim, you care whether or not I am damned, and if, as they claim, you are all wise and all powerful, you can prove to me that you exist even though I am confident such a thing is logically impossible. Thanking you in advance for your cooperation in this matter, John C. Wright.” — and then my mind was at rest. I had done all I needed to do honestly to maintain my stature as someone, not who claimed to be logical, objective and openminded, but who was logical, objective, and openminded.

Three days later, with no warning, I had a heart attack, and was lying on the floor, screaming and dying.

-Then I was saved from certain death by faith-healing, after which–

-I felt the Holy Spirit enter my body, after which–

-became immediately aware of my soul, a part of myself which, until that time, I reasoned and thought did not exist-

-I was visited by the Virgin Mary, her son, and His Father-

-not to mention various other spirits and ghosts over a period of several days–

-including periods of divine ecstasy, and an awareness of the mystical oneness of the universe-

-And a week or so after that I had a religious experience where I entered the mind of God and saw the indescribable simplicity and complexity, love, humor and majesty of His thought, and I understood the joy beyond understanding and comprehended the underlying unity of all things, and the paradox of determinism and free will was made clear to me, as was the symphonic nature of prophecy. I was shown the structure of time and space.

-And then Christ in a vision told me that He would be my judge, and that God judges no man. I mentioned this event to my wife. Then about a month later, when I was reading the Bible for the first time beyond the unavoidable minimum assigned in school, I came across the passage in the book of John, a passage I had never seen before, and to which no Christian in my hearing had ever made reference, which said the same thing in the same words.

-And then I have had perhaps a dozen or two dozen prayers miraculously answered, so much so that I now regard it as a normal routine rather than some extraordinary act of faith.

So I would say my snide little prayer was answered with much more than I had asked, and I was given not just evidence, and not just overwhelming evidence, but joy unspeakable and life eternal.

(I also regard this overwhelming deluge of evidence to be shameful before my fellow Christian, since the saying told to Doubting Thomas, blessing those who believe without seeing, is a blessing denied me. In hindsight, if only I had not been so arrogant,  I could have glanced around at the earth and sky, and seen the intricacy, wonder, and beauty of nature, regarded the unanswerable authority of the conscience within me, and known that I was a created being inside a created cosmos, not  a random sandheap blown for a season into a meaningless shape by blind winds. Any child can see it, and all children do.)

To me, the universe was death row, and I was a condemned prisoner who believed everything outside death row was delusion and wishful nonsense — and then I got a call from the governor of the universe, commuting my sentence. I will live forever. As will we all. This was my repayment for a life spent in blasphemy and hatred and slander against God. Instead of smiting me as I damned well deserved, He spared me, and exulted me, and showered me with grace.

I was converted.

So I was prepared to say adieu to logic and reason and just take things on faith, when I then found out that the only people who think you have to say adieu to logic and reason in order to take things on faith are crackpots both Christian and atheistic.

Every non-crackpot thinks faith is that on which you rely when unreasonable fears tempt you to disbelieve that to which your reason has consented. If your father says you can dive off the high dive with no risk of death, and he has never lied in the past, and your reason tells you to trust him, it is rational to take his word on faith and jump, and it is irrational to let your eyes overestimate the danger poised by the height.

I then discovered that the Christian world view makes sense of much that the atheistic or agnostic worldview cannot make sense of, and even on its own philosophical terms, is a more robust explanation of the cosmos and man’s place in it, answering many questions successfully that atheists both claim cannot be answered, and then, without admitting it, act in their lives as if the question were answered, such as how to account for the rational faculties of man, the universality of moral principles, the order of the cosmos, how best to live, etc.

Turning to my atheist friends, I then discovered none of them, not one, could give me even so reasonable an argument as I was expert in giving in favor of atheism.

They reasoned as follows: “God cannot possibly exist. Therefore any evidence that you encountered that God exists must be hallucination, mis-perception, faulty memory, self-deception, coincidence, or anything else no matter how farfetched and absurd. Since any evidence that you encountered that God exists must be hallucination, mis-perception, faulty memory, self-deception, coincidence, or anything else no matter how farfetched and absurd, therefore none of your evidence proves God exists.”

I found their perfect, childlike faith touching.

No matter what they saw, no matter what they heard, no matter how the world was against them, they would go to the lions rather than look at the evidence, lest their faith in their faithlessness be shaken.

When I pointed out that this was circular reasoning, they called me bad names.

One skeptic, in a bit of a lapse of his vaunted presumably rational character, told me solemnly that I could not possibly have had Jesus tell me something from a book in the Bible I had never read before. He said that I had read it afterward, and developed the previously undiscovered ability to edit and rewrite my memories, which I then used on myself, so that I only thought I remembered Jesus telling me about the nonjudgmentalism of God. The memory was created after I read the passage, and then back-dated. Then I used this power again to make myself forget that I had the power to make myself forget things.

I asked him if I also had the power to rewrite my wife’s memory, since she remembers me telling her about the passage before I read it. He then tried to cut the conversation off, while accusing me of being irrational.

Another atheist told me I induced a heart attack in myself with my previously undiscovered heart-attack inducing power. And then cured the heart pain with my previously undiscovered heart-attack-curing power. I did both things in order to convince myself falsely of a doctrine I did not believe and had no interest in believing, but, unbeknownst to myself, my secret desire to believe was so great that it overwhelmed and sanity and seized control of my subconscious biological and cardiovascular processes. When I questioned him about such things as whether he was familiar with my medical record, or when I asked to see the evidence supporting this theory, he called me names.

I did not get the opportunity to ask him by what means he discovered the hidden workings of my secret unspoken desires, since he had never spoken to me, and was not with normal mind-reading range. I did not get a chance to ask him whether this strange ability to harm and heal myself at will was something all people had, or whether he thought I had a superpower due to being bitten by a radioactive spider or something of the sort.

Another atheist told me that that heart failure was a coincidence, not a direct result of my prayer tempting God Almighty, and if that had not happened, something else like a car accident would have happened, and since I am irrational, I would have drawn an improper post hoc ergo propter hoc conclusion no matter what happened, on the grounds that God cannot exist no matter what the evidence says nor how obvious it is, and so anyone who draws the obvious conclusions from the evidence MUST be irrational.

He, at least, did not call me names, aside from making the claim that I would have made an irrational lapse in judgment no matter what had happened after praying my one experimental prayer to a God in which I had no particle of belief, in order to sustain and support my (nonexistent, at that time) belief.

He continues to suffer the false to facts belief that he can read my mind back through time and see the internal workings of my psychology during events where he was not present. For a skeptic, he is really, really gullible.

I tried gently to point out the logical error in trying to use reason to persuade me that he, a stranger to me, knew that I suffered from a mental illness that prevented me from reasoning, whereas I, who have access to things like my past history and my medical records and the contents of my thinking, have more authority to speak to the issue than does he, until and unless I am impeached as a witness.

In general, the argument that I am impeached as a witness on the grounds that my testimony did not confirm the prejudices and assumptions of a third party is not one likely to prevail in a court of law, or as a debate among sober philosophers, scientists, nor anyone trained in rigorous reasoning.

And so far not one atheist has approached me with a legitimate argument, such as the Problem of Pain, or the Paradox of Determinism, or any apparent inconsistencies in the Bible. The only feeble effort in this last direction was from someone who insisted that the Gospels were written in the late Third Century, but could give no argument to support this extraordinary revolution in the standard model of history, nor quote an authority in the field in support.

None have even erected a child’s argument, such as asking whether God could create a stone too heavy for Him to lift.

I used to be one of you, my dear atheists, and I was good at my job, and you all embarrass me with the feebleness and silliness of your attempts to do what I once upon a time did so well. You are a disgrace to the powers of evil.

But enough about me!

My question for you is this: if science discovered tomorrow that the universe was half its apparent age, and estimated the stars as half their current number, would the belief in God somehow be twice as credible in your eyes?

If so, why so?

If not, then, logically, the age of the universe and the number of stars has no bearing on the credibility of belief in God or in the Incarnation.

Again, if you are attempting to persuade me that I should not believe in unusual events or unheard-of or hard-to-believe on the grounds that no unusual nor unheard-of nor hard-to-believe events never happen, simple logic shows that this cannot be the case:

Logically, every ordinary event is unheard-of before we hear of it; and the first example of even repeated events is unusual until the second example occurs; and events are hard-to-believe when and only when our expectations and our experience does not match: therefore every novelty is as incredible as the platypus when first encountered. Therefore not only do incredible events happen, they must happen, for if they did not, the concept of credibility could not exist.

If, on the other hand, you are arguing that I ought not believe reports of miracles on that grounds that miracles do not exist, and that we know miracles do not exist on the grounds that no believable reports of them are heard, you are arguing in a circle.

You are also implying that the human race, all of whom believe in gods, ghosts, magic and miracles of one sort or another, except for that exquisitely tiny minority of persons who are consistent atheists, just so happened to have all made the same lapse of judgment in the matter of paramount and foundational importance in their lives, and continue to do so, some of whom would go to the lions rather than reexamine the aforesaid lapse of judgment. While it is possible that everyone during the parade is out of step except the fond mother’s son in the old joke, this would seem to be as unusual, unheard-of and hard-to-believe as a Virgin birth, if not more so.

The argument that miracles are unbelievable because they are unbelievable, even if it were not circular, is less persuasive than may at first appear, when proffered to a juror who is himself a skeptical eyewitness to several miracles, answered prayers, visions, religious experiences, knowledge of events before they happened, et cetera.

Obviously, I who have seen miracles ex postiori, cannot adopt the a priori assumption that miracles cannot exist and retain my integrity as a philosopher, or my honor as a man.

About John C Wright

John C. Wright is a practicing philosopher, a retired attorney, newspaperman, and newspaper editor, and a published author of science fiction. Once a Houyhnhnm, he was expelled from the august ranks of purely rational beings when he fell in love; but retains an honorary title.
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279 Responses to A Question I Never Tire of Answering

  1. KFJ says:

    “Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.”

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  3. BobMcGovern says:

    I accept that near death experiences can be divine or hellish, that powerful changes to bodily chemistry and functionality are always a factor, and that the experience should be carefully evaluated.

    The first step in finding God, like the first step in walking, is bound to fall short of perfection, as are all future steps. I question why religions, based on revelation, suppress revelation. In effect, you assert that your revelation validates quite a number of doctrines.

    The Bible describes how God’s revelation was received by people over 2,000 years ago. Reading the entire book, with an open mind, gave me a foundation for religious freedom. My religion is free of doctrine and denomination, while being open to how God’s revelation is unfolding in today’s world. My God has no limits whatsoever. None.

    Evaluation of my baptism as an infant leads me to uphold the efficacy of that baptism. My soul rose to meet the Holy Spirit and was filled with the light of the Holy Spirit. The role of the priest in terminating that process was not so efficacious. As for birth, my soul arrived on time and the birth of my physical body occurred. My memory recorded that my soul was outside my body at the time. Birth has an eerie resemblance to near death experience. There are significant changes to body chemistry and functionality. Not so with Baptism.

    The apostles performed Baptism for initiation. Whether or not all early Christians abstained from all drugs is an open question. We do know that today’s churches are short on prophets, healers and works of power.

    • We do know that today’s churches are short on prophets, healers and works of power.

      This is an odd thing to say to a man whose reason for his conversion is that he was healed by a work of power, and received a prophetic vision.

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  5. ktcat says:

    God bless you, John! I’m so happy to read your conversion story and sent it on to all kinds of different folks.

    Welcome to the team, my friend! You are loved.

  6. martin17773 says:

    John, the blessed virgin Mary and the choirs of angels – did you have this vision or was it someone else I’m trying to recall?

    • Among others. I indeed had a vision like that, which came as quite a surprise to me, since I was neither raised Catholic nor was friends with any. I would have much preferred a visit from the god Thor.

      Other people have had visions of Mary, so I may or may not be the one you are trying to recall.

      • martin17773 says:

        I’m fairly sure you’ve described it in here. Wanted to share it with others, I’ve searched but haven’t found it yet. It was for the feast of Our Lady of Fatima and linked to the Creation of Arda in the Silmarillion.

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  9. pgrachan says:

    Thanks for sharing your story and opinions. I am grateful for having been pointed to your page. I apologize for the length of this response, I’m sure most will check out 1 paragraph in.

    I also acknowledge that there will be flaws and mistakes in my response, but I am grateful for the opportunity to learn through discussion. These are simply my thoughts having been on both sides of many fences.

    First, I do not discount your experience or thoughts. They are valid for you, thus they are valid. It would seem that with each shift in your beliefs throughout your life, you are most assured and confident and that is great. I would simply like to present some thoughts for general consideration.

    It seems to me that each of us sees the world through glasses which we have put on or have had put upon us. You put on glasses that challenged a being that you know of having specifically asked for proof.

    By doing this, psychologically you had prepared your mind to accept possibility and I would contend that you already were a believer illustrated by your specific act of active faith (prayer) vs your asserted position of simple observation. You then had a life-altering event which was unexpected and then you connected your experiences with a belief system which is dominant in your society. I do not believe it was caused by anything, it need not be. I think it just was. Heart attacks are quite common.

    An interesting discussion about the importance we place on our own personal “coincidences” can be heard in one of the episodes of This American Life that I was on. Your event was eventful to you because it happened to you, not because it was out of the ordinary in a statistical sense.

    This connection seems directly parallel to the ones people make who discuss this matter with you while differing in their opinions. They too have had visions and experiences which back their view. So would you discount their experiences as invalid? I would hope not.

    Humans naturally find patterns (connections) as part of our survival mechanism. It can be reasonably argued that you attributed events to this particular story line because of the glasses you had put on. Perhaps there were times before when you had challenged this god for proof and nothing happened that you found satisfactory, backing your previous belief system, and using the unmet challenge as proof? It seems a common action for atheists to take.

    As part of this pattern recognition, humans also seek to assign reason. In days past it was something like “lightning wrecks things, thunder comes with lightning, things are usually wrecked when there is anger, thus lightning is controlled by something who is angry and the thunder is the sign of this anger. Be afraid when there is thunder.” or something similar. Once we figured out what thunder and lightning were, we moved away from assigning it to the divine, like we have many things, yet there are billions of things we still cannot explain.

    This desire for reason and pattern isn’t magic or belief, it’s just how our brains operate.

    To see this in action within your own current belief system, take a look at “bad” things. In general, Christianity assigns temptation and bad to an evil being, and even discusses a place called hell, though the bible itself makes very little mention of either one of these specifically and a historical study clearly shows the modern origins of the assumed personality of the devil and the place he supposedly resides outside of the words of the bible (this “knowledge” is akin to people believing Eve ate an apple).

    Christians assign reason for bad to the devil because it is too difficult to talk about the actual conclusion based on a purely christian belief system, which would be that every evil is God’s will. Certainly we know that God is willing to commit all manners of action that we would find evil, even admittedly breaking almost all 10 commandments within the covers of the bible, so why not all actions of “evil” in our times?

    The truth according to the bible: Everything is God’s will. If it is not, which parts are we to believe, how do we tell? If the devil can work outside of god’s will then what if he has instituted false scripture! Or false churches! Or what about all the different interpretations of the same words and the wars and deaths that have resulted from this! Which ones are real? Or how about the assembly of the bible that we read today! What if something was left out by the devil! What about the parts that only applied culturally to the people of the day? Do we still follow those? How do we know what to keep and what to ignore? If it’s just the basic principle of Jesus as Savior, then how do we get to know Jesus, or do we even have to? Once we explore outside of the simple God is everything, God sent Jesus to save you, it becomes a can of worms.

    Even the creation of a being designed specifically to be sent to hell seems a bit puzzling to an outside observer. Like blaming a car designed without brakes for crashing.

    This is a difficult thing to admit, so we create other stories to explain the story we think must be true at that time. The possibilities are literally endless so we must limit them in order to move forward, as religions have throughout history.

    Its far easier to and perhaps necessary to say “Satan does bad things, God does good things” and leave the decision of what is good or bad up to ourselves on a case by case basis.

    I do know one thing. None of us know anything for sure. We all have faith on one level or another. I believe it is not the end object of faith that is the most important, but the journey of this faith.

    Just somethings to consider. I’m sure this is nothing new for someone like you who is surely far smarter than I. I hope you continue to be well and strong in your journey.

    • Welcome to Philo 101. Back to the elementary lesson on how to think rationally.

      It seems to me that each of us sees the world through glasses which we have put on or have had put upon us.

      If that applies to your beliefs as well as mine, you have impeached your own beliefs as well as mine, including your belief that each of us sees the world subjectively. So, logically, no, it is not possible that each of us sees the world through glasses which we have put on or have had put upon us.

      The comment is doubly nonsensical because we are discussing the change of my beliefs in a radical and fundamental way.

      …By doing this, psychologically you had prepared your mind to accept possibility and I would contend that you already were a believer….

      Having read my article where I specifically point out the logical fallacy (not to mention the arrogant rudeness) of having a stranger to me telling me what my own secret thoughts are, you do so nonetheless, despite the warning.

      Talk to my wife. She will tell you exactly how open I was to accepting the possibility. It was zero.

      What, you mean you did not talk to my wife and friends before coming to your conclusion? You did not seek out any evidence? You did not go through a logical process of reasoning? Aha. Then on what grounds do you dismiss my eyewitness testimony of my own state of mind as less reliable than your airy speculations about my state of mind?

      On what is your belief based, if neither on evidence nor on logic? On faith? In whom?

      What if your own logic were turned on you? Could not everything you say, all your questions, be dismissed as you having secretly prepared your mind not to accept the reality of God, and so you erect feeble arguments against it? Does that sound like a persuasive argument to you?

      If not, why do you use such an argument on me?

      As I said, my motive for the experiment was a sense of philosophical honor, nothing more. It is that sense of honor which you lack, sir.

    • DaveSomething says:

      pgrachan, would you like to discuss the flaws in your objections to Christianity? You raise a number of objections, many of which simply don’t apply to Catholicism in particular. I’m just not sure what your level of interest is in the discussion, though. If you would like to, please let me know which of your objections you consider to have the most force, and we can start there.

      Thanks!

  10. momofthree says:

    You said, “This desire for reason and pattern isn’t magic or belief, it’s just how our brains operate. ”

    Have you ever stopped to wonder why their are patterns in the material world in the first place? Why is it intelligible at all? Why are there laws of physics? Why is it not haphazard and devoid of pattern?

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