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Solomon Kane and Ozymandias

Posted January 31, 2008 By John C Wright

I just finished reading the Solomon Kane anthology a friend of mine lent me. (http://www.amazon.com/Savage-Tales-Solomon-Kane/dp/0345461509)

This addition is beautifully illustrated by Gary Gianni, who may be the reincarnation of Howard Pyle.

Bloodshed? Stories written in 1928 are not going to be as gory as what we routinely show our kids on TV, but the events are as gory: more is left to the imagination. When Kane comes across a flayed and bloody torture-victim, eye gouged out, but still alive, screaming and babbling, I assure you what I see is as gross as anything from a modern R-rated film. Times have not changed that much.

In any case, Robert Howard has a knack for describing action which make his stories stand out from a crowd of imitators.

There were two weird elements I noticed in the tales.

 

Several things that are weird-good, by which I mean, that the savage tale has just those elements that made pulp fans read Weird Tales to begin with: we routinely run across survivors of primordial Atlantis, vampires, African ju-ju witchdoctors able to project their souls across vast distances and possess the bodies of victims, freaks of nature, blooddrinking ghosts, and so on.

One or two things were weird-weird, by which I mean, once or twice Robert E. Howard jarred me out of my suspension of disbelief because he had Solomon Kane do or think something that Conan the Barbarian might do or think, but which it would be rare — rare enough that the author should have explained it, or explained it away — for a Puritan of Cromwell’s day to do or think. 

For example, in more than one place, the writer refers to Solomon Kane as an Anglo-Saxon barbarian, or having the furious temper and ruthless fighting skills of his Aryan forebearers. Normally this kind of, let us call it “pulp racism”, I tend to overlook as being merely the boosterism for your team or race that your average bloodthirsty schoolboy wants to hear when he is reading your average bloodthirsty boy’s adventure tale. I do not think it is real racism, any more than a mother-in-law joke or a “dumb blonde” joke is real sexism. I do not think it is racism at all, but rather, a type of romanticism: the Glorification of the Blond Barbarian.

(One reason why “pulp racism” strikes me as mere boostering, not real racism, is because the dusky races are never treated with Wellsian contempt: they always include bold warriors and true friends. You can call this condescending, if you like, and call it racist, if you insist, but it is very different from the emotion that compels Nazis to drive trainloads of Jews into the gas-chambers. When the Green Hornet has his life saved, and his super-car designed, by Kato, who is one of the most kick-ass death-dealing fighters in pulpdom, you have to twist your words in a hoop to get this admiration for way-cool sidekicks from overseas to be some sort of race-hatred.)

Pulp writers in those days reflected the sentiments of the poets of the previous generation. The idea, the archetype of a lusty and manly barbarian German, wholesome and sound of limb, freedom-loving, and basically healthy and decent meeting and overcoming the sinister, over-civilized, over-rich, over-weak corrupt nations of the crumbling Roman empire, or trampling the lavish and cruel jeweled palaces of Oriental potentates under their barbarian boots was a commonplace. It reflected an impatience with civilization, law and order, and it exalted the spontaneous, the rugged, the raw and natural: not a sentiment I sympathize with, but surely popular at the time.

But this “Glorification of the Blond Barbarian” did not fit the dark-haired and pallid, restless and cold-eyed Puritan described in other parts of the book, if you see what I mean. “Fanatic” is a perfectly good word for a Puritan swordsman, but “barbarian” is not, at least, not when a Cromwellian Puritan, from one of the most civilized times of one of the most civilized nations of Earth, is slogging through darkest Africa fighting cannibals and ape-men.

This romanticism had several branches and offshoots, but one branch that found its way into the pulps is what I call “The Romanticism of Despair” by which I mean, the pulp writer dwells on the existential horror of the world. The world is depicted as ruthless and meaningless, and fate is a thoughtless monster of iron hooves who will trample you. Human life, human history, the human world, are mere specks, microseconds, tiny bits of dirt spinning in a void of darkness about a minor, dim star.

The Romanticism of Despair is found most clearly in H.P. Lovecraft, whose chthonic monsters and trans-cosmic horrors, despite his clumsy writing, have gripped the imagination of SF fans for decades, far, far beyond the merit of his short-stories would explain. What Lovecraft did was give (unpronounceable) names and (indescribable) forms to the basic ideas of modern existential despair. Between Copernicus and Darwin and Freud and Marx and Einstein, man has been thrust from his geocentric role as the favored creation, into a shocking minor position of astronomical smallness, no longer (if Freud is to be believed) in charge of his own mind, no longer (if Marx is to be believed) master of his own history. The blind inhuman forces of history, for Lovecraft, become blind and mad things indeed, Azathoth and the other insane, inhuman, infinite and utterly indifferent gods of his pantheon. Even the devil in Milton was more human than any of the Other Gods of Lovecraft. Lucifer lusts after the beauty of Eve, he pities the innocence of Adam, he regrets his loss of paradise, he is motivated by hate and despair, he clothes his actions in concern for public good, he speaks of freedom and rights, and, in every way, seems like a human being writ larger than life. Cthulhu is not human at all and not properly alive.

Robert E. Howard wrote in the same vein. When Solomon Kane comes across an ancient monument or a lost city, the far past is always depicted as horrible; the things he fights are ancient survivals or cruelly inhuman sports of nature producing life blindly, things as powerful as Man, but not like Man. According to the ideal of the Romanticism of Despair, the past was not a Golden Age, for that would be too cheery a view: the past is where the primordial serpent-men of Valusia come from, or the inhuman sorcerer-kings who ruled Egypt before Adam, beast-headed gods and shambling horrors.

The central point of this type of Romanticism is to have an Ozymandias moment: an traveler in an antique land comes across a crumbling monument, and his mind reels like a boy on a rollercoaster, because the vistas, the immensities of the eons seem to open up before his gaze, and his soul is pierced with desolation. The immensities are, of course, an immense wasteland, not an immense garden, because the point of an Ozymandias moment is to show the littleness of all human aspiration and ambition.

Lovecraft, of course, merely had his characters quail when they saw the eons open their huge and unhuman eyes; Robert E. Howard’s characters react with the fury of Nietzsche or Byron, and they blow a horn or wave a scarlet banner and draw their swords to defy the inhuman fate that rolls toward them like a faceless juggernaut. 

Now, what is wrong with this? Nothing, except that my suspension of disbelief suffers when the Puritan stops to reflect on the meaninglessness of life and the glory of pointless defiance of an empty and inhuman universe; or when a Puritan pauses to reflect that man is merely one beast among many, created by evolution as a blind sport, a plaything of random chance: and the monsters that the Puritan adventurer fights are beings created just as blindly by the evolutionary forces of nature, weird offshoots of human life, or subhuman crawling things stirred up to monstrous mockeries of humanity….

I am not saying no Puritan can think that way; but I am saying the author has to explain why a god-fearing fanatic from the Sixteenth Century is having thoughts so unusual for someone who believes in God to have.

You would think, when he sees a tribe he vowed to protect torn to bits by winged horrors, a Puritan would blame himself, or think it was the justice of an angry God, or blame the dark mechanizations of Satan, that sultan of all fiends. He would not stop to contemplate the blind meaninglessness of the forces of Evolution and Entropy, much less draw his sword and defy them. He would think that a Wrathful God (Puritans were big on wrathful God)  had created the monsters to test the faithful. Or something.

In Robert E. Howard’s defense, Solomon Kane does not mention Darwin (who was not going to be produced by the blind forces of Evolution for another two hundred years) instead Kane contemplates the writings of pagan philosophers who taught that creatures arose from the blind chance of atoms jarring against each other, with no god to guide them and no purpose. Robert E. Howard does not name these philosophers, but a student will recognize this as being the teachings of Lucretius ( DE RERUM NATURA, “On the Nature of Things”). There is a passage in Lucretuis (in book V) that has a haunting similarity to modern notions of natural selection. The poet describes the early days of the world thus: 

In those days also the telluric world
Strove to beget the monsters that upsprung
With their astounding visages and limbs-
The Manwoman- a thing betwixt the twain,
Yet neither, and from either sex remote-
Some gruesome Boggles orphaned of the feet,
Some widowed of the hands, dumb Horrors too
Without a mouth, or blind Ones of no eye,
Or Bulks all shackled by their legs and arms
Cleaving unto the body fore and aft,
Thuswise, that never could they do or go,
Nor shun disaster, nor take the good they would.
And other prodigies and monsters earth
Was then begetting of this sort- in vain,
Since Nature banned with horror their increase,
And powerless were they to reach unto
The coveted flower of fair maturity,
Or to find aliment, or to intertwine
In works of Venus. For we see there must
Concur in life conditions manifold,
If life is ever by begetting life
To forge the generations one by one:
First, foods must be; and, next, a path whereby
The seeds of impregnation in the frame
May ooze, released from the members all;
Last, the possession of those instruments
Whereby the male with female can unite,
The one with other in mutual ravishments.

And in the ages after monsters died,
Perforce there perished many a stock, unable
By propagation to forge a progeny.
For whatsoever creatures thou beholdest
Breathing the breath of life, the same have been
Even from their earliest age preserved alive
By cunning, or by valour, or at least
By speed of foot or wing.

No pulp writer worth his ink could read about the gruesome monsters with astounding visages, without itching for his warrior-hero to meet them with sword and dirk and a battle-cry on his lips.

On last comment, and this one a spoiler. In one story Solomon Kane is given a magic staff by a ju-ju magician, his friend and bloodbrother, N’longa. The Puritan is reluctant to take what seems to be a thing of witchcraft and black magic, but the mystical staff allows him to destroy an otherwise invulnerable zombie-creature. In a later story, this stick turns out to be the magic wand Solomon son of David used to drive the genii out of the Middle East, the Rod of Moses, the scepter of ancient Pharaohs and Sorcerer-Kings of Egypt and Atlantis,  and indeed, a wand made from a tree that does not grow on Earth, because the wand was used by the Elder Ones in their struggles against pre-Adamite horrors older than mankind, older than the earth. Phew.

A Puritan would have been impressed to have the Rod of Moses in his hand. Part seas and oceans at will! Great magic item. Wish my D&D character had one. But that was not old enough, not creepy enough for Robert E. Howard. It had to come from Atlantis, or from the Beyond.

Why Atlantis? Simple. Remember what I said above about the Romanticism of Despair. According to this Romanticism, the past is always a dark, unknown, unknowable, an eldritch wasteland. The central image of the image of Ozymandias: the traveler stands in awe, contemplating gigantic ruins. Atlantis, in Howard’s day, had returned to public popularity by the writings of Theosophists, and, like a fish story, the island described by Socrates had grown to become a continent. The image of a strong and beautiful civilization overwhelmed by the collapse of a continent is the very essential of an Ozymandias image. Islands sinking produces a sense of awe and desolation: whole continents sinking very much more so. Sinking continents occupied by a highly civilized race of men is even better; a race of magicians and superman is better yet; a continent occupied by a race of prehistoric superhuman serpent-kings with the power of telepathy is better yet!

Why does Robert E. Howard and HP Lovecraft live on in the imagination of Science Fiction fans. Surely we science fiction types are optimistic lads eager for tales about how a group of boyscouts can build a rocket in the backyard and fly to the moon and shoot some Nazis? Isn’t the spirit of Yankee “can-do” optimism the opposite of the spirit of Ozymandian desolation?

I suggest that they are not opposites. The contemplation of the vastness of space and the duration of eternity leads to a feeling of awe, that sense-of-wonder, just as much as the contemplation of the ruins of primordial Atlantis and the slumbering of Cthulhu in R’lyeh.

The sense of wonder, the awe at immensity, is a feeling as central to the science fiction genre as the feeling of horror is to horror genre.  

 

OZYMANDIAS

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them on the sand,
Half sunk, a shatter’d visage lies, whose frown
And wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamp’d on these lifeless things,
The hand that mock’d them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear:
“My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!”
Nothing beside remains: round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

 

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Some Thoughts on Presidential Politics

Posted January 31, 2008 By John C Wright

Countless interested readers from my horde of fan (can one fan make a horde? Well, if he is a science fiction reader, overweight and very loud, yes) writes in with a question:

FAN: Please, please allow me to come home again, son! You know they perform medical experiments on us here at this cheapass Rest Home where you locked me up, don’t you? It’s run by the mob. I’m your mother, for God’s sake!  

ANSWER: Oops. Sorry. Wrong letter. Trying again.

FAN: Now that the caucuses seem to favor McCain as a front-runner for the Republicans, and since many conservatives in the base are alienated from McCain due to his position on Border Control and Campaign Finance Reform, do you foresee a rupture in the GOP that will aid Hillary Clinton in her Presidential bid? Or, are there enough independent swing voters who will vote for McCain to allow for a GOP victory even if disgruntled conservatives have a low turn out at the polls?

ANSWER: The question assumes McCain will win the Republican nomination, and Hillary Clinton the Democrat nomination, which is far from certain at this point. Instead of addressing the question directly, I would like to talk about what is more certain. I will be voting for Solomon Kane, Puritan Adventurer as a write-in candidate.

No doubt the normal reader of a “John C. Wright” article is wondering at this point: “Gee, I feel like a snack. I wonder if there are any leftovers in the fridge. How about some cheese?” All I can say is, stop wondering, and pay attention here.

 

Readers who are here by mistake, not my normal readership, might be wondering as follows:

You: “Mr. Wright, while we stand in awe of your intellectual prowess, certain difficulties would seem, at first glance, to be a roadblock to having Solomon Kane, Puritan Adventurer be a presidential write-in candidate for the upcoming election. First, he lived in the Sixteenth Century. Second, he is an Englishman, not an American, and therefore cannot run for President. Third, he is a fictional and imaginary made-up make-believe character from the pulp magazines, invented by Robert E. Howard. That means, if we were to rate candidates for public office, instead of by Left and Right, on a spectrum where more-real was on one side, and not-so-real on the other, Solomon Kane is lodged somewhere between the Grey Lensman and The Shadow. He is more real than James Norcross the Superpresident, but, alas, less real than Santa Clause, who at least was originally based on Nicholas of Bremen.”

My response: OH MY GOSH, I cannot believe you know who James Norcross, the Superpresident is. Man, that was one obscure TV toon. It was on for like, what, one season in 1964? In any case, your whole argument is too difficult for me to answer, because it makes sense. Instead, I will reply by saying not being a real person has never prevented other fictional characters from standing for public office! Lex Luthor bought his way into the presidency with his ill-gotten gains from his supercrimes, and Philip Nolan Voight was elected by telepathically influencing voters, and President Deutscher became president only because a clumsy time traveler stepped on a butterfly during a dinosaur hunt. Greg Stillson would have become president, but, being a conservative Christian, he would have gone crazy and caused a thermonuclear Armageddon, but fortunately his lunatic ambitions are halted by an assassination attempt by a psychic, presumably not a Republican. Let us not even talk about Mr. Thompson, the collectivist Head of State in ATLAS SHRUGGED, or President Berzelius “Buzz” Windrip  the fascist in IT CAN’T HAPPEN HERE.  If all these guys, who are walking epitomes of evil, can be elected President, so can Solomon Kane, Puritan Adventurer!

You: “Hold it a sec! Greg Stillson, power-mad Christian, does not count. The DEAD ZONE guy stops him from being president to begin with, right? He is not actually ever president. The psychic dude played by Christopher Walken goes to try to shoot him, and…”

Me: My point exactly! People with psychic powers should always go assassinate political figures, because we KNOW the demons who give you your visions are accurate and reliable, right? Of course right. The moral of the story is: shoot first, shoot early, shoot often. Not just psychics, but also people who have nightmares, hear voices in their heads, or just get hunches.

You: “Wait a sec. What in the world does that have to do with Solomon Kane?”

Me: Excellent question! Solomon Kane shoots people! And winged bat-things from the terror-haunted hills of darkest Africa, as well as remorseless non-material eldritch death-clouds from primordial mausoleums, vampire monsters from the elder world, deathless queens from sunken Atlantis, Spanish Dons, pirates, cutthroats, Arab slavers, blood-drinking ghosts who linger near gallows tree beneath haunted moons ….

You: “Dang. He shoots a lot of people”.

Me: Not so many. Those flintlocks are strictly one-shot deals, and not so accurate. Usually he stabs them to death with his trusty blade of Toledo steel. He fights with a cool and iron nerve, without flourish, but relentlessly as Judgment Day itself, while his eyes burn like a volcano seen beneath a mile of icy glacier. Look at those eyes! Those remorseless eyes!

You: Hold it! That is not Solomon Kane! That is Lamont Cranston, The Shadow!

Me: Oh, sorry. (Sheesh! Like they are not supposed to be the same immortal being hunted by Duncan MacLeod or something. As if. The even dress the same.)

You: “Solomon Kane has a buckle on his hat! He fights with a sword! The Shadow uses a pair a .45 automatics and he can cloud men’s minds!”

Me: Picky, picky. Well, here is real picture of Solomon Kane, Puritan Adventurer.

You: “That’s not Solomon Kane! That’s Vampire Hunter D!”

Me: What d’ya mean? You can see the sword he fights with. You said he used a sword.

You: “It SAYS Vampire Hunter D right on the picture!”

Me: Whatever.

You: “So you are voting for this guy…. Why, again, exactly?”

Me: He is a humorless and dour Puritan fanatic prone to acts of violence, who regards himself as the instrument of divine vengeance, and therefore he wades through torrents of blood, sometimes going insane, in order to work a terrifying retribution on evildoers.

You: “Dour fanatic! Divine vengeance! Torrents of blood! Why does that make him a good candidate for President?”

Me: I thought that was what Christian Family Values stood for. That’s why I started going to chapel. When do the Autos de Fe start again? I wanna see the heretics burn, baby.

You: “Wait. Where did you get your idea that this is what Christians do in church?”

Me: From movies like DEAD ZONE (see above). Christopher Hitchens would not lie or exaggerate, would he? Noam Chomsky said that during the Spanish Inquisition, the Christians killed forty-four hundred trillion people, including the entire population, not just of this planet, but the Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies, including people killed retroactively back through time. The Pope himself, according to Philip Pullman, killed nine hundred thousand million just with his teeth. Did you know Christians are against sex? It’s a fact! I read it in Wikipedia.

You: “Um. Did you know the word “Gullible” is not in the dictionary?”

Me: (looking carefully in Webster’s.) Sure it is! Hey, there is a picture of me in the Dictionary, too! Right by that entry.

You: “Hmm.”

Me: In any case, I think Solomon Kane, Puritan Adventurer can beat Hillary Clinton, and I like his stance on foreign policy. I mean, he kills Arab slavers in the book, so…

You: “Why do you think he can beat Hillary?”

Me: He’s defeated other undead, hasn’t he? (rimshot).

 

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Mind Meld

Posted January 30, 2008 By John C Wright

Enough about truth, justice and beauty, and all such dull topics! Let us talk about something we all love: ME!
http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/006185.html Why, LOOK! A question about the speculative nature of speculative fiction asked of that famous, if rotund, figure: ME! My favorite person: ME! Talking about my favorite topic: ME!

My ego is so big it enters the room four minutes before I do.

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Eugenics, and other modern fairytales

Posted January 30, 2008 By John C Wright

Perseeni poses a difficult question, which I despair of answering clearly. I will try my best. The beginning of the discussion is here

Let me take eugenics as an example, since you mentioned it as an example of barbarism. I’ll begin with a hypothetical.

Let us say we have a choice between two courses of action or inaction. According to our predictions, one of those two courses of action will lead to the existence of a beautiful intelligent people, while the other will lead to that of an ugly stupid people. Even while lamenting the inexistence of a suitable time machine for testing our hypotheses, shouldn’t we choose the former course of action, *as long as* it doesn’t violate people’s rights? The following is an example of such a eugenic course of action: a program for a *voluntary* free sterilization to be provided to people who meet specified requirements. These people would also, in this hypothetical scenario, be *paid* for undergoing this voluntary sterilization, so there would be an incentive for them to do so. Would you, Mr. Wright, tell me what would be barbaric about such a course of action? Please try to be as concrete in your response as possible.

Here is an example of a dysgenic course of action, taken from the real world America (and it is indeed an example of action, and not inaction): a social security system and other laws and services that encourage minority races, especially poor and illegal aliens, to have many children, while economically discouraging whites from having many children. Also, due to other laws of similar bent, men with any money of their own, and therefore at least a descent amount of intelligence, have become wary of having children in the first place: once they have a child, they must financially support him, regardless of whether their partner decides to leave with the child, leaving the man behind, which again has been made easy, often even financially beneficial for the woman, by the feminist legal system. In contrast, during the Medieval period, noblemen were sowing good-gened out-of-wedlock children where ever they found attractive women of lower classes. Today, such short-term relationships don’t yield as many babies as they might in any case, due to the popularity of contraception.

(Quoting me) “Everyone, and not merely science barbarians, makes claims about what is good or bad based on what we think we know about the world, and also based on what we think we know about the nature of good and evil.”

Perhaps. Yet there are those whose statements are clearly more based on reality, and not so much on sentimental visions of equality, which visions the supporters of same would probably never try to make part of the real world even if the tools were given to them, as they indeed have been (in the form of eugenics, gene manipulation, nano technology).

* * *

You have lost me. You are making an argument here in favor of eugenics, but you are not making a scientific argument, or even making a scientific claim. You quote no fact and no observations; you merely recite certain commonplace myths and make certain assumption.

For example, do you have a factual, scientific study at hand, based on real observations, that says that beauty is an inherited characteristic, as opposed to, say, a by-product of factors like diet and exercise, or even being a characteristic that exists mostly in the eye of the beholder, due to societal norms? I am not a big fan of lip-plugs, for example, but my Aztec friends tell me they are the height of elegance.

Do you have a factual, scientific study at hand, based on real observations, that says the American welfare system gives money to minority races because they are minorities, rather than, say, to poor people because they are poor? I am not talking about correlation, I am talking about cause and effect. If poverty is not an inherited characteristic, then you are not talking about genetics, you are talking about something else (social engineering, perhaps or cultural characteristics) and merely using genetics as a metaphor.

In fact, your argument is, in many ways, the opposite of a scientific argument: it is an appeal to prejudices.

“According to our predictions, one of those two courses of action will lead to the existence of a beautiful intelligent people, while the other will lead to that of an ugly stupid people….Even while lamenting the inexistence of a suitable time machine for testing our hypotheses, shouldn’t we choose the former course of action, *as long as* it doesn’t violate people’s rights?”

You have not given any reason why anyone should choose the course of action you outline. Maybe you have an idea in mind, but you have not stated it here, and I am at a loss to guess what it is. It is not based on any moral theory known to me.

I have a son who is retarded, and I myself am ugly, so I do not see why I should destroy my bloodline merely so that some hypothetical future generation might, in your imagination, meet “standards” (I use the term loosely) that are arbitrary and shallow.

I do not see why I should give way to Fu Manchu, who is smarter than me, or to Paris Hilton, who is prettier, and let them breed and people the earth, as opposed to people who think like me. (Noy jitat! The world overrun by Paris Manchu! The mind reels.)

If anything, my natural inclination is to preserve my bloodline: indeed, if I were to play the same game as you, and draw moral conclusions from Darwinian speculations, should I not claim that Mother Nature herself orders me to preserve my bloodline, on pain of extinction? Why should I not want my grandchildren to look like me, rather than to be pretty?

Barbarians often mistake what is beautiful for what is good, and have no notion of the rights of man or the dignity of man, and so the idea of breeding other men like packs of dogs, to get some strain with superior characteristics has an appeal to the barbarian.

Barbarians believe in a strict cosmic order, and so they are naturally infatuated by caste systems and godkings: they are naturally inclined toward simplicity in their legal theory, if their prejudices can be dignified by that term. Civilized men have written laws and notions of justice. Nazis and communists, for example, whether they live in cities or not, whether they are literate or not, are barbaric, because their theories and practices are those of barbarians.

You have carefully spelled out, by making the eugenics and sterilization program voluntary, how to make it legal, at least, by a libertarian notion of legality: you have not explained how it is civilized, or consonant with traditional “Classical Liberal” notions of the dignity of man.

In other words, I cannot answer your question because you have not asked a question. You have assumed that sterilization for eugenics is civilized, but have given me no reason to think it is.

I would not let myself be bred like a dog, for I am a free man; and that is the basic concept that separates the barbarian from the civilized man. Is this answer concrete enough to satisfy you?

I have tried to answer as best I may, but I am honestly not sure I understand your question.

Was your question whether a voluntary system would violate a libertarian notion of rights? It would not.

Would it be barbaric? Of course it would be: men turning themselves into eunuchs for the goofy and unobtainable goal of pleasing some Sultan of the far future, who can look out his window as if at his cattle and see nothing but pretty people? In this case, you are the Sultan, and the view is imaginary, but I do not see a difference in spirit.

I do agree that the welfare system in America encourages bastardy and discourages marriage, and discourages hard-working poor from working hard– it provides the opposite economic incentive.

To me, that implies that the science called economics must be consulted before we decide what laws are just and unjust to deal with this problem; it does not sound like a problem in biology, unless you think poverty is an inherited characteristic.

Is poverty genetic? Let me list a few rags-to-riches individuals that such a theory would have to account for:

  • Chris Gardner
  • Lisa Renshaw
  • Bill Gates — a dropout, if you recall
  • Oprah Winfrey
  • Roman Abramovich,
  • Steve Jobs — an orphan and a dropout
  • Ralph Lauren
  • Li Ka-shing, richest man in Asia — a dropout at age 15, orphaned, went to work in a factory.  
  • Kirk Kerkorian quit eighth grade to take up boxing.
  • Sheldon Adelson — The son of a Boston cabdriver
  • J.K. Rowling, richer than the Queen — a welfare mom.

The barbaric view of human nature is that we are dogs to be bred by our masters to be pleasing to his eyes. The civilized view of human nature takes nothing as our master aside from the pure and principled idea of Goodness, or, if you are religious, God Himself: and to be fruitful and multiply is one of His commandments to us. My family life would be miserable indeed were it not for my children; if you are asking me to give up my family life so that some Eloi of the year AD 802701 will be pretty to look at, or some Morlock be possessed of a cunning intelligence, you are making some assumption about the value of human life, particularly of my life and my son’s life, that I cannot see.

“Yet there are those whose statements are clearly more based on reality…”

A noble sentiment. All philosophers favor discovering the truth, and looking at it clearly, no matter how it hurts one’s eyes.

But then you conclude the comment with this bit of malarkey: ” … and not so much on sentimental visions of equality…”

I laugh in scorn. As if notions of equality before the law were anything but realistic, pragmatic, hard-headed and clear-eyed views of the real nature of human nature. Or are you calling Hobbes, of all people, a sentimentalist? Ho ho.

Where have you been the last four hundred years? Did you miss the Enlightenment? Where have you been since the overthrow of Tarquin the Proud, and the establishment of the republic of Rome? Where have you been since Solon?

Monarchy and race-supremacy is not merely a myth, it would impractical even if true. Creating special privileges for a caste or class devalues the justice system, and brings irrelevent factors into the operation of the court of law, erodes loyalty toward the legal system, and threaten the peace. Simpler and more practical to punish a man as a thief when he steals bred, because he stole, rather than waste the court’s time with evidence of his ancestry and caste. What does it matter if the hand that steals is white or black, wears a gold wristwatch or not? Equality in the eyes of the law is quite pragmatic, if you goal is maintaining the public peace. The divine right of kings or the pseudo-divine right of the genetically superior is not pragmatic; such social systems would be in constant civil war, tumult, and upheaval.

The idea of a caste system based on eugenic breeding for supermen is not even something as dignified as a myth: it is a science fiction story.

And it is a story always told in the third person, never in the first person. It is always THAT race over THERE who is going to be subjugated by the forces of history, never MY race HERE.

In reality, the Jews are a harder working and smarter people than any other tribe of man. Do I need to list everyone from Einstein to Ayn Rand to Freud to Marx, who, no matter what you think of their conclusions or theories, display a remarkable ability to make intellectual tidal waves, and change who paradigms of civilization?

In reality, the Japanese are ferocious, highly intelligent, clean, and highly motivated. They are the beautiful and intelligent people you describe.

Are you willing that the White Races shoulder sterilize themselves so that the beautiful dark-haired children of Amaterasu should oversweep the world? If your ideals were pragmatic, instead of poetical, you would be willing. Li Ka-shing has made more money than you or I or anyone we know. Should we sterilize ourselves to allow his progeny more room to breed? That would be scientific, would it not?

Fantasy comments from the “reality-based” community invite derision. Modernism, or socialism, racism, nazism, materialism, environmentalism (or any of these other ‘isms’ that modern folk have in place of religion to occupy their energies) is not more realistic or more clearly based on reality than a well-thought out philosophy: it is merely the most recent fad or fashion. Usually, the ‘ism’ is some return of some old and long-discredited heresy, some form of Gnosticism, or a wish to de-universalize civilized moral thinking, and return to the time of the Patriarchs, where we were the Chosen People and everyone else was a heathen. The West passed beyond that stage in moral development since 70 A.D.; and the Far East since the time of Confucius; and the Near East since the time of Buddha. All these are world views that make a universal claim rather than a tribal claim.

I am not sure why eugenicism should be treated with more respect than these other daydream-ideologies. Anyone who wishes to reintroduce caste based on race and tribe, he will need something with more persuasive power than a lame Darwinist myth about the inevitability of progress or the desirability of evolution.  The shock of the Twentieth Century, the sheer and horrific barbarism of national socialism in Germany and international socialism in Russia, have tarnished the banners and emblems of “progress” to the point where human progress does not seem inevitable; nor will a conservative assume that every change, even change that betters the world, does not have a price, sometimes a price too high to pay.

What is the price tag on the future where the smart and beautiful people lord it over the ugly and stupid people? What are the likely consequences? What is the expected effect on the psychology and society of the folk involved?  What are the moral consequences of having a large, sterile population, with no Darwinian stake in the future? What are the chances that the voluntary system would stay voluntary? If the stupid people are that stupid, on what grounds will they be convinced to devote their energies to a long-term project of racial eugenics?

And once you breed the Superman, what assurance do you have that he will be the Superman of Jerry Siegel, Joe Shuster and not the Superman of Nietzsche, a ruthless and  immoral power-hungry creature who will treat you like a dog?

And how do we know the race that springs out of the future will be superior rather than inferior? My view of history shows many and frequent degenerations and devaluations. Even if I were willing to sterilized my ugly self for the sake of the Superhuman race to come (Jewish Chinamen, no doubt, see above) why should I risk sterilization if there is a chance the race after man will be Morlocks? Evolution is neutral. Evolution is about fertility  and survival, not looks or brains. To value looks and smarts is a human, not a natural, evaluation. Why is it any more or less realistic than competing values not here mentioned, morals, decency, equality?

Come now: if we are basing our theories on reality, we should be able to make realistic assessments of these things.

Where, in any of this, is justified the assumption that a pretty and smart but dishonest and perverted person is better than an ugly and slow but honest and decent person? You cannot tell me honesty is rocket science: any man of ordinary intelligence knows the difference between right and wrong.

My smarts, or at least, my booklearning is greater than the booklearning of my grandfather; but my grandfather never went into debt, never begged and was ungrateful, and he never failed to provide for his family, and never let a day pass when he did not work and work hard. He was not arrogant or lustful or slothful. I assure you that I am prettier and smarter than he: I assure you his moral stature was gigantic and rock-solid, better, if I may be honest, than my own moral stature, which is nothing to write home about

The reality is that Darwinism is a biological theory, not a moral theory. The ruthlessness of the extinctions of nature, and the competition between individuals in a species for resources, if anything, should shock the conscience of civilized men and urge them to vow to be unlike nature, not to impersonate her. Civilized men say it is better to die free than to live a slave. Nothing in nature says this. Religion says the meek shall inherit the earth. Nothing in nature says this.

If we take nature as our stepdame, the lessons she teaches is to admire Sparta, not Athens; the lesson of nature is to worship strength and bloodshed. Nothing is more unnatural, and more proper to man, than the pursuit of justice in the law and of beauty in the arts and honesty and humility in daily dealings with our fellows.

But men living in the state of nature is the very definition of barbarism, is it not?

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fuzzybunny916 asks : (“This article completely misrepresents Canadian Muslims’ values, their community and their religion,” said Faisal Joseph) How is what Steyn is doing different from say. slander, which is illegal?

Good question! Let the Internet Lawyer explains the Law! My motto: “I almost flunked law school, but two guys with grades even worse than mine actually graduated!”

The elements of slander are

   1.  A false and defamatory statement concerning another;

   2. The unprivileged publication of the statement to a third party (that is, somebody other than the person defamed by the statement);

   3. If the defamatory matter is of public concern, fault amounting at least to negligence on the part of the publisher; and

   4. Damage to the plaintiff.

All this, in a court of law, bound by objective rules and standards of evidence — do you hear me, I said bound OBJECTIVE rules — where the accuser has to bring clear and convincing evidence to prove each element.

 

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Hat tip to superversive

Posted January 29, 2008 By John C Wright

No science fiction writer ever predicted how clever computer web pages could turn out to be.

This is a page for some store in outremere somewhere. Dutch? Danish? Just take a look.

http://producten.hema.nl/

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An item in the news, for those of you freethinkers who think that political correctness is your friend. Mark Steyn is being sued by the Canadian Human Rights commission for his study of demographics in the book AMERICA ALONE.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080109/CULTURE/555842186/1015

Citing previous cases, Mr. Steyn noted both that no accused has ever won a case once the CHRC referred it to the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal and that truth is not a defense when dealing with the commission or the tribunal.

Whereas facts, quotes and statistics may be accurately cited by the author, what the commissions bases its judgment upon is whether the person reading it is offended.

“Offense is in the eye of the beholder,” Mr. Steyn said. “A fact can be accurate, but offensive to some people. The commissions aren’t weighing facts but hurt feelings.”

Another danger raised by Mr. Steyn is that a First Amendment defense does not apply in Canada, despite the article’s being an excerpt from a larger work originally published in the U.S.

… Ron Gray, the leader of Canada’s Christian Heritage Party (CHP) and another target of the tribunal… (is)… facing a CHRC complaint after reprinting on the party Web site an article critical of homosexual activism that had appeared in the U.S.-based news site WorldNetDaily — a positive review of a series of legal essays published on the topic by the Virginia-based Regent University Law Review in 2002.

“I felt this information was important for the Canadian public and our party members to have access to because the debate over same-sex ‘marriage’ was raging at the time,” Mr. Gray said.

An Edmonton man named Rob Wells would come across the article four years later and file a complaint against Mr. Gray and the party. Citing previous cases investigated by the CHRC, Mr. Gray said Canada’s human rights commissions are targeting Christians and social conservatives.

The selectivity of the cases referred to the human rights tribunal by the CHRC is also disconcerting to Paul Tuns, editor of the Interim, Canada’s largest pro-life monthly newspaper with a circulation of approximately 34,000.

“There seems to be a trend where Christians and conservatives are always on the losing side,” he said.

Like Mr. Steyn, Mr. Tuns is concerned that a state apparatus is giving its stamp of approval to certain views over those it deems politically incorrect.

“I would be against these tribunals even if they were ruling in favor of our side,” he said. “Essentially, the human rights tribunals are making decisions on what seems offensive to one group or another. Offensiveness is not the same as harmfulness. Offensiveness is subjective, and it’s difficult for the alleged perpetrators to guess what would be offensive to someone.”

While the Interim has thus far avoided any CHRC complaints, its sister publication Catholic Insight, a popular Catholic monthly in Canada, also received news last month that it faced a complaint over articles critical of homosexual activism.

“The one case I know where a Christian responded by filing a complaint against an individual who had defamed him, the CHRC refused to hear the complaint,” he said.

Mark Steyn, in a radio interview with Hugh Hewitt, mentions that Mark Steyns’ joking reference to Robert Ferrigno’s science fiction novel PRAYERS FOR THE ASSASSIN is actionable in the Canadian law court. Got that? If an author writes a passage in a speculative novel about the future, and a second party quotes it or refers to it, and a third party is offended, the second party faces legal penalties. If the act of quoting or joking about a book is criminal, obviously the act of writing it is illegal.

http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/talkradio/transcripts/Transcript.aspx?ContentGuid=4c3e8d71-da70-4336-929f-bea657c9ce21

(The Human Rights Commission) complained, you remember that novel we talked about on this show a couple of years ago, Robert Ferrigno’s Prayers For The Assassin. …. But they complained about me mentioning plot twists of that book. You remember the Super Bowl, where it’s the all-male cheerleading team. …. And part of their official complaint to the Human Rights Commission is that Steyn says there will be all-male cheerleaders at the Super Bowl.

Well, every left wing novelist on the planet should be extremely disturbed that you can take the plot twists of novels and make them actionable in pseudo-courts. Every left wing novelist should be on my side over this. Unfortunately, they won’t be, because they’re left wing novelists.

Margaret Atwood, remember that futuristic novel you wrote about how a group of religious zealots had taken over America, and compelled women into oppressive, degrading roles, forcing them into polygamous harems, making them wear veils and so on, and abiding by a particularly strict version of religious law? You remember how you made the bad guys Christians, despite that fact that Muslims, in real life, in the real world, in the present day, now, are doing those exact same things?

What makes you think the Muslims do not have a right to be offended with you? (I mean your side’s leftwing definition of rights, the politically correct definition, not the real definition.) What makes you think the Muslims will not see the parallels between what you criticize dishonestly in us, and what you would be criticizing, if you were honest, in them?

Ah, I love science fiction. Ours is the only genre any more that talks about real issues.

Just so we are clear about what we are talking about:

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/dec/07121902.html

Canada’s Human Rights Commissions were started in the 1970’s on the recommendation of activists who said that there needed to be a cost-free informal court system where vulnerable people like immigrants could seek redress in cases of discrimination in matters of employment, services and accommodation. The legislation bringing them into existence gives them permission to disregard the usual rules of legal procedures meant to protect defendants’ rights such as rules of evidence, presumption of innocence, bias of witnesses or representation. Its officers and adjudicators do not have to have legal training but are political appointees, commonly representatives of special interest groups.

If there were any justice in the world, the word “McCarthyism” would drop out of public parlance — since Soviet archive records shows McCarthy was right, and that the people he accused were, in fact, guilty — and since McCarthy operated strictly within the laws of evidence for Senate investigations — and the word to replace it, the word that would conjure up heretic-hunting disregard for normal rules of evidence and legal training, the word that would be a synonym for the hysteria of a witch-hunt, would be “Canadianism” or better yet “Leftwingism.”
 

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Hail! Hail! Freedonia! Land of the Free and Self-Centered!

Posted January 25, 2008 By John C Wright

Our hedonist friend has answered my challenge, and extensively, and here, for the first time in my argumentative life, I wonder if I am adequate to answer, merely because time does not permit.

Intending no discourtesy to my honored opposition, for reasons of time (and not because the questions he asks are not good ones, and not because the comments he makes are not worthy of being engaged) I must pick only those comments to answer that, in my opinion, express the crux of the dispute. Other misunderstandings will be left unanswered.

I am not going to bother, for example, to answer his questions about the relation of law and justice. I assume we both believe the basic Lockean idea that laws are instituted among men to preserve natural rights, and that laws destructive of those rights should be changed or overthrown. I assume we both believe the theory of limited government, which holds that there are areas where, no matter what good it could do or might do, certain things should be beyond the orbit of public power, such as free speech, or the sanctity of private property.

Here is the crux of the matter. Angloamerican legal tradition holds that the rights of freedom of speech and of property are not absolute, but have to be weighed, with a nicety of judgment, against competing rights and interests.

Freedom of speech is limited by a law against libel and slander, for example, but also by copyright laws, espionage laws, pornography laws, laws forbidding the incitement to riot, laws punishing the conspiracy to commit crime, and even laws that serve other public policy interests, such as discouraging the sale of tobacco to minors, or preventing assemblies in times and places that threaten the public peace.

I would argue that such limits on freedom are a necessary evil.

Let us call my position, merely to give it a name, “Tanstaaflism.” In the same way that there aint no such thing as a free lunch, my position is that there is a cost to every right and every liberty: and, by a cost, here, I do not mean a price in money. I mean that no right is so sacred that it can be allowed to trample competing rights and interests with impunity.

One such right, which I hold to be of very high value indeed, but not to be an absolute, is liberty the freedom from force or the threat of force against yourself or your property by someone, private or police, acting not in his own self-defense against you. Call this the principle of nonaggression.

My honorable opposition seems (if I understand him) to be arguing in favor of a total nonaggression principle. His ideas have elements of libertarian and epicurean theory in it, but you may read his words and judge for yourself. Let us call his position, merely to give it a name, “Absolute Liberty.” I will gladly use a different name if this one causes discomfort. Any name that is not misleading will do. 

As best I can tell, he allows for no exceptions, even in extreme hypothetical cases, to the principle that one ought not to initiate violence, and the actions of the police and the courts of law fall under what he defines as violence: the correction or control of another’s behavior by force or threat of force, rather than by bribe or persuasion. I am merely going to assume that he will include fines, or carrying off the property of another, or using force to prevent his use and enjoyment of his property, to also be included in this definition. It is not what most people mean when they use the word “violence”, but let us allow this definition for the purposes of argument.

It is worthwhile to note that men have never yet erected a commonwealth where the state was limited to the Absolute Liberty position. Whether this is due to the moral shortcomings or the moral wisdom of the founders of new constitutions and the reformers of old constitutions is a matter not here under debate: all we can say is that is has not been reflected in the decisions of founders and reformers who have acted so far.

What this means, in effect, is that my honorable opponent and I are directing our arguments toward reformers yet unborn, those who have not yet acted on the stage of world history, those who currently dream, but who have not yet done.

He is urging a radical reformation of the current constitution; I am urging at most a moderate reformation, a return to traditional first principles, or, in most cases, no action at all. I am urging that we accept the necessary evil, because it is necessary, while we forever attempt to minimize the evil that cannot but come of it.

You who read these words, reformers of the future, may not be in the position of Lycurgus or Moses or Jefferson or Madison, to write the laws and the constitution of the commonwealth on a blank slate. No matter. You certainly are in a position either to support or to oppose, in word and deed, the constitution, customs, and laws, you inherited. You get to pick which constitution, customs and laws you will pass along to your posterity. We are all immigrants to the future.

My worthy opponent is asking you to place your children in Freedonia, the Land of Absolute Liberty. I am asking you to place them in Tanstaaflia, the Land of Necessary Evil. You are selecting where your children will live. Chose wisely, because you chose not just for yourself, but for them.

He and I both agree, if I read him correctly, that government must be limited, the Leviathan must be chained. We disagree as to where the boundary lies. I would argue that his philosophy would shorten the chain of the Leviathan so tightly, that the results would be dishonorable, even dangerous.

Let me speak first, if briefly, to the dishonor. The Absolute Liberty position implies, albeit it does not require, a hedonistic moral theory. Such a moral theory is inadequate on every level for the real tragedy of human life. Logically, hedonism cannot be supported and encouraged, either by one man or by the social consensus, unless normal human pain and suffering are ignored, or are regarded without pity: this is a matter of logic, as I said, because one cannot both emphasize pleasure as the source and goal of human action, and regard those pains which cannot be escaped by any human effort, sin and sickness, grief and death, as significant in the human condition. You cannot regard suffering as insignificant and also have a significant degree of pity for it. Tragedy and comedy are mutually incompatible as world views.

Let me speak next to the danger. By “danger” I mean that your chance, if your parents live in Freedonia, the Land of Absolute Liberty, of you living a full life to ripe old age and dying peacefully in bed are less, everything else being equal, is less than if your parents lived in Tanstaaflia, the Land of Necessary Evil.

The laws and customs of the Land of Necessary Evil will protect your life in at least four areas where the laws and customs of the Land of Absolute Liberty offer you no protection: suicide, child-rearing, war, and infirmity.

The first area is suicide. The Absolute Liberty position requires that no moral judgment be made on any matter that does not affect another person. By this logic, the rightness or wrongness of suicide is not a moral question at all; it is merely a matter of taste, like preferring pie to cake.

A quote:

  “So it is better for the man to live in despair than to die? Not all despair is fixable. Sometimes you can’t escape a no-win scenario. Why shouldn’t a man be the judge of his own best option?”

This is, simply put, the pro-death position. His claim is that we humans do not have the intelligence, or perhaps we lack the moral authority, to prevent by force a brother or son of ours from committing suicide. Myself, I so not see why I should have more respect for my brother’s despair than I have for my brother’s life.

A dead man cannot feel despair; this is an activity or personality trait of living men. Nothing of value survives the death of a man who dies for the sake of despair: the purpose of suicide is self-destruction. It is not some act of martyrdom or heroic sacrifice where a man spends his life to create and maintain something greater than himself that will live after him. 

Let us say it was you. Your name is Harry Vincent. You are young, and you have run up a gambling debt you cannot pay. There is no way out. There you stand on a bridge, trying to nerve yourself to throw yourself down to certain death in the turbulent river below, when, out from the night, a black-garbed figure emerges, a sinister figure in a black-brimmed hat, a living shadow. The Shadow grabs you with rough violence, and throws you back away from the brink. He says that, since he saved your life, you are honor bound to aid him in his dangerous and ruthless war against gangland crime.

In Freedonia, this act by The Shadow is impermissible. He committed a battery, and, strictly speaking, a kidnapping (because he moved you by force from one place to another, even if it was only a few steps). You can sue him or have him arrested, perhaps by some Detective named Joe Cardonna.

In Tanstaaflia, on the other hand, The Shadow did you a good turn, because your life is valuable in and of itself. You placed a low value on your life in your moment of despair, but, in Tanstaaflia, we would say your estimation was WRONG. While the laws might not actually require you to work for him, the customs and the sense of honor would certainly approve of you if you did, because, after all, he did just save your life.

I am not arguing that the laws of Freedonia are innately wicked, foolish or cruel. I believe them to be, but I am not making that argument here: time does not permit. Instead, I am merely pointing out that, as a pragmatic matter, if you parents raised you in Freedonia, you are greater danger to your life whenever some momentary despair overwhelms your love of life.

The philosophy in Freedonia tells you your life has no innate value; it is only of value to you when you love it, and only to the degree that you love it, so no one is really in a position to talk you away from the brink. If you are the one who sees Harry Vincent on the brink, you are in breach of the laws if you reach out your hand, and, without his consent, use force to restrain him from self-destruction.

Logically, if suicide is permitted in Freedonia, all lesser and included acts of self-destruction are permitted: drug abuse, drunkenness, Russian Roulette, what have you.

Logically, if suicide is an arbitrary personal choice in the philosophy of Freedonia, having no more innate meaning than preferring pie to cake, then all lesser acts of self-destruction and self-betrayal are likewise matters of nothing but personal choice. You have no duty to live well, no duty to live up to your highest potential, no duty to be honest to yourself, no duty to be thoughtful and kind, no duty to be temperate, modest, moderate, just, brave, or anything else. You live for your dick.

The hedonist philosophy has no logical basis for offering criticism of the passions and appetites. If you have no inclination, at the moment, to value your life, the logic of hedonism offers no one grounds to tell you that you ought to value your life despite your inclination. Such choices are beyond criticism.

Hence, all personal ethics, all ethical questions that only directly affect you and no one else, all those things that you ought to do even though you have no natural inclination to do them, according to the philosophy of Freedonia, are merely matters of personal inclination. Hence self-destruction is not only permitted, but also beyond criticism.

Absurdly enough, this type of crass hedonism simply assumes that human beings are atomized and isolated from each other. There are no families, no friendships, no debts. When Harry Vincent commits suicide, the grief of Mrs. Vincent, his mother, is a matter of no significance at all. The hedonist will say Harry owes nothing at all to his mother. For that matter, the crew team that was depending on Harry for the Big Meet next Saturday also are owed nothing. The friends who miss him, the nephew he promised to help build a model airplane, the girl he was going to marry: all the people emotionally scarred for life by his sudden and violent self-destruction all mean big fat Goose Egg according to the philosophy of selfishness.

In that philosophy, nobody needs each other, and all human relationships are burdens, not joys. The only thing a hedonist says about another human relationship is this: he gets a suspicious look in his eye and warns you not to impose on him, because, as we all know, only those efforts which we voluntarily shoulder for the purpose of pursuing mutual self-interest are obligatory. Everything else one does or does not do merely as fancy suits one.

Your life is in danger in Freedonia, if you are prone to despair. Not only can The Shadow not use force to drive you back from the brink, he cannot even talk you out of it, not on any grounds that hedonism finds logically compelling.

The second area is child-rearing.

A quote: “A person who conceives a child has not yet agreed to the contract of its care, and until that happens, he has every right to decline any relationship with the potential child.”

If I read this correctly, it means not only that a father can abandon his pregnant lover and her unborn child to their fate, it also means the mother can abandon the born child to his fate, provided only that she has not agreed to the contract of its care.

No age range is mentioned, at least, not in this quote, so I assume the mother is free to leave her children in the dumpster, or in the middle of a snowy field, for any reason or no reason, at any time from birth to majority, unless a contract provides otherwise.

If my worthy opponent wishes to say that the act of sexual reproduction in the eyes of the law is a contract that binds the lovers to carry out the moral obligations their act sets in motion, then, in effect, he is saying marital obligations bind any man who has sex with a woman. A paternity law would require he carry out the obligation to rear the child, or pay out child support money as a substitute. This would contradict my opponent’s core axiom, the Principle of Absolute Nonaggression, because the force and violence used to exact paternity payments from a tardy and reluctant father clearly offer violence to someone who offers no physical violence to any other.

If my worthy opponent wishes to adopt some intermediate position, such as allowing for children to be aborted or killed or abandoned under certain conditions and not others, we need not visit those details. No matter what my worthy opponent defines as a circumstance under which leaving a baby to die of exposure, my main point still stands: if your parents live in Freedonia, your chances of making it alive from conception to majority and dying peacefully in bed are less, everything else being equal, than if they live in Tanstaaflia. Because we who live in the land where There Aint No Such Thing As A Free Lunch believe in shotgun weddings. If you make a baby, you take a baby.

If my worthy opponent adds the provision that no one may abandon his child except to the hands of someone else willing to care for it, then this raises additional problems. Hedonism offers no logical basis to justify charity. No hedonist can give a reason, within hedonist morality, to foster the orphan or aid and protect the widow. You may do so if you are so inclined, but nothing in the philosophy says you ought to be inclined if you happen not to be.

The third area is the danger from war and crime.

The quote:

” Human beings are either created or effected by something non-human. We may have been made in god’s image or evolved up from the primordial ooze. Or left on Earth by aliens, or some other explanation. In any case, our configuration as humans are not self-determined. The same entity, by design or by chance, that configured us with reason configured us, or at least me, with lusts. Therefore to say that lust is profane while reason is sacred is to second-guess our configurations. It is to weigh one part of humanity over another arbitrarily.”

My worthy opponent is here simply saying that is it arbitrary to make any judgment between the various passions and appetites, the demands of reason, and the voice of conscience. In other words, in his total and pure agnosticism on ethical questions, he can see no reason to prefer listening to reason over listening to a momentary impulsive appetite, even a self-destructive one.

If perhaps we were prelapsarian men, as pure as Adam before the fall, whose every impulse and lust and appetite were moral and just and could lead to no bad consequences, this utter abandonment of reason and conscience and judgment could be justified. Otherwise, it is merely a stupid comment, for it says no one can chose between good versus evil, long-term versus short-term, selfish versus selfless, thrifty versus wasteful, self-destructive versus self-preservative, honorable versus shameful, etc., etc.

If you live in Freedonia, you live surrounded my men who think like this. In time of war, men of this lack character will be in the foxhole with you. In time of crime, men of this lack of character will serve on the jury with you, or serve on the vigilance committee or police force with you. These are the men on whom you are relying to avenge your injuries and to terrify scofflaws into obedience.

The fourth area is old age and infirmity.

Let us suppose you are on your sick-bed, perhaps even in a coma. At that point, you have no ability to protect yourself from anyone who means you harm. For that matter, you have no ability to protect yourself from merciful partisans of euthanasia, who seek to spare you pain (or seek to spare themselves inconvenience and expense) by shutting off your food and water.

I will quote the first quote again, changing only one thing: “Therefore to say that contempt for human life is profane while respect for human life is sacred is to second-guess our configurations. It is to weigh one part of humanity over another arbitrarily.”

All I have done is substitute one base human desire (lust) for another base human desire (indifference). All I have done is substitute one noble human trait (reason) for another (respect for life). I submit to you, reformers of the future, that the same logic applies to both. No philosophy can claim reason and lust are equal, but then turn about and say respect for human life in innately better than indifference to human life.

The paradox at the core of the hedonist philosophy now hoves into view. 

Hedonism, according to this quote, does not allow us to elevate reason into a special position above lust. To chose between the two is arbitrary, so it says. And yet my honored opponent does not pay the same deference to choler and wrath and vengeance and other human emotions and passions that form part of our human “configuration” just as much as lust or any other appetite.

If my young son were being propositioned by a pederast, who lived next door to me, and sold or published photo-shopped images of him engaging in sex acts, which he also displayed on a billboard visible from my front door, I assure you that the “configuration” of a choleric gentleman like me, a Virginian, would involve a shotgun, a shovel, a remote spot of ground, and a moonless night.

You can argue, if you wish, that law or justice requires me to tolerate the neighborhood pederast targeting my son, using his likeness without permission, and slandering him, but then, to what in me are you appealing if you ask me to choke back my choler and my sense of outraged justice? What duty do I have toward the pederast that is greater than the duty I owe my son to protect him from public shame and from sexual predation? You cannot possibly be appealing to my reason or my conscience. If my reason has no authority to check my lust, what reason can you give me to convince me that my reason has authority to check my wrath?

(For that matter, if reason has no special claim over our whims, on what grounds can you argue with me about any topic at all? Why is my desire to believe a flattering falsehood any more base than the desire like lust or wrath? You cannot argue in favor of a lack of intellectual integrity and at the same time rest on the intellectual integrity of your audience to consent to your argument, due to its merit, if they are not inclined, due to their desires, to admit fault.)

Come now, my reformers of the future. When you are six years old, or eight, who would you prefer as your father: the man who would prevent, by force if need be, the gigantic photo-manipulated posters showing you drinking semen form looming over your house, or flyers with the same picture being distributed to your mates at school; or the father who does nothing, and live in the land where the police can do nothing?

Here is the second of the two quotes on this point:

Quoting me: “Hedonism cannot comfort the prisoner in the dungeon or the cripple in the sickbed or the beggar in the gutter. Mine can. Telling a man who lives with daily cancer pain that pleasure is what he should live for is a sick joke.” My opponent answers: “What a limited and depressing view that sees the patching of sores as the sole aim of human existence. What of the man who does not have cancer, poverty, or chains? What of the man in a civilized society, who earns enough for his needs and his caprices?”

Now, a careful reading will show you where my opponent merely misreads what I wrote. I say that hedonism is insufficient as a philosophy to explain real life. Real life contains both ups and downs, both healthy and sick, both the quick and the dying. My point is that hedonism, the pursuit of base pleasure, is not merely insufficient, it is foolish and ugly philosophy to try to apply to someone like a cancer patient in a terminal ward, for whom base pleasure is not possible.

Instead of an answer, we merely get an expression of contempt for the sick and the dying. We are told that life also consists of healthy and happy people.

Why, and so it does! The happiest people of all are married people, which is an institution my opponent seeks to undermine. Happier is he who is raised by his parents than he was as a child is left to die out in the snow, which is an option my opponent seeks to justify.  Happier still is the man whose neighbors are selfless, heroic, choleric, and patriotic, for they will fight the enemy at home and aboard, who otherwise wait to rob and despoil. And happy again is the village and town with no pornographer, no pederast, no drug culture, no gamblers, no drunks, no slanderers, because not only can those people not tempted by these things raise their children without a constant expectation of innocent & impressionable minds being exposed to abhorrent filth, but also the people tempted by these things can be kept from self-destructive habits, whether they like it or not. They may still have the itch, but even they will admit that scratching makes it worse, not better.

You see, my opponent is arguing that Christianity, a world view that does comfort the sick and reform the sinner, a faith that does allow the cripple to take up his bed and walk, is somehow unfair to the healthy and righteous men, the people who are not cripples. Where he gets this notion, I have no idea: it is certainly not in anything I said.

Nor is that my experience. We Christians are surrounded by ceremony and festivity, including ceremonies of joy and of mourning; there are baptisms and marriages, but also funerals. There are fast days and feast days. We may mourn and put on sad countenance on Good Friday, but we dance in the streets on Mardi Gras, and we are so happy on Easter Sunday that we gather together and sing hymns of praise and thanksgiving.

So, I ask you, reformers of the future, to dwell for a moment on the sheer, stark, astonishing, amazing inadequacy of my opponent’s response.

I will remind you of the exchange once again. I said that a life of selfish pleasure offers nothing to a man in a sickbed: no comfort, no hope, no guidance. It does not even offer any guidance to a boy who is lovesick or to a man who just lost his favorite dog. To tell these people to seek selfish pleasure is a sick joke, a monstrosity.

Imagine Job, sitting in the ashes, all his life’s work ruined, all his children dead, scraping with a pot shard at the boils and running sores erupting over his diseased flesh. In comes the mighty whirlwind, full of thunders, and reveals the almighty truth from heaven: “Eat, drink and fuck! Serve your dick, Job! That is what life is all about!”

“But, sir, my male member is covered with unsightly pustules. I have a toothache in every tooth, and cancer is eating my bones. All my children are dead. Besides, I am married.”

“No, no! Go find a Playboy Bunny and a sixpack! Have an orgy! Party on, dude! PAAAR-TAAAY!”

Now, this is not to say that Christianity, or, for that matter, the normal sense of decency that every honest man, religious or not, feels in his heart, cannot offer guidance to the healthy and wealthy and wise. Any real philosophy can speak both during happy days and sad.

The shocking inadequacy here is that when I asked my opponent how his philosophy deals with the tragic side of life, for once he does not answer honorably, he merely shrugs the question aside, and then acts as if he had to defend the healthy and happy people of the world from something I said.

This is not an accident of this particular man. This is a value built in to the root of every hedonistic system. Hedonists ignore the tragic side of life, or else they feel contempt for human suffering. Their philosophy is shallow.

When you ask them, “Here a ninety-nine sound men: but what do we do about the one hundredth, who is a leper? How do we comfort him, save him, show him compassion? How do we love him?” They answer, “That is not my job. I could care less” or they answer, “It is his fault he suffers,” or they answer, “I will not sacrifice my happiness for the leper,” which is an answer that particularly reveals their moral and mental shallowness, especially if no one is asking him to sacrifice any form of true happiness.

To return to the point, if your family raises you in the land of Freedonia, where people think and talk this way, the moment you fall sick, you are an unperson. Their philosophy will seek to blot you out of their memory and attention. They are busy swiveling Playboy Bunnies and chugging beer. PAAAR-TAAAY! No one wants you and your sores and your smells cluttering up their little corner of Eden.

Surely you do not expect a hospital to take you in at public support? To gather taxes for these purposes, perhaps for any purposes, would violate the nonaggression principle. Surely you do not expect for there to be Churches in Freedonia, hospitals run by nuns and missionaries to care for the sick because of the compassion Almighty God command His people to show? In case you cannot tell, Freedonia and the Church will never have anything to do with each other. Do you expect people to be charitable and volunteer their  help and support for non-religious reasons, merely out of human sympathy and decency? Aha! That is a fine thing to think of your fellow man. There are many decent and sympathetic secular humanists. But humanism is NOT hedonism. The governing philosophy in Freedonia is not the principle that all men are brothers and that human life is what gives the inhuman universe value. Secular humanists live for the dream of human aspiration, progress, enlightenment, world peace. They live for the greater glory and the greater happiness of man. They live for the future, and they have a concern for our remote posterity: Environmentalism in my opinion is a new type of paganism, a nature-worshiping religion: but it is as honorable as paganism: these pagans think in terms of the remote future on a routine basis. Why should the hedonists of Freedonia think about anyone except Mr. Trouser Willie?

I have already written longer than I can afford.

I cannot speak to the dishonor involved here, but it should be obvious from these last few paragraphs. Freedonia is not merely a set of laws. It is also a moral theory, or, to be specific, it is a theory that morality is not open to reason. It is moral agnosticism. All the Freedonian can say when questioned is that no human should ever dare to criticize or correct the choice another human makes between self-preservation and self-destruction. Any vice, no matter how much pain it causes you or your loved ones in the long run, is a matter for your private choice only, and the choice is one with no standards.

Even Ayn Rand, arch-libertarian, would not go so far as this. She valued human reason and human liberty above all things, but she was a strict moralist. Her philosophy stated that it was not mere physical survival that was the source of human morality, but “human survival qua man”, which she defined as being those acts of survival suited or fitting to a rational and productive life. Surviving at the expense of others, without honest labor, she dismissed as unworthy, even in particular cases where it might serve one’s short-term self-preservation and self-interest.

Whatever our questions about Ayn Rand or about real libertarians, we need not reach here. My opponent is not supporting Eudemonism or Epicureanism, which hold that certain pleasures are unworthy to pursue because they lead to long-term displeasure or shame. No. Read the quote about “composition” again. My opponent is advocating radical moral agnosticism: his claim is that it is arbitrary and wrong to govern one’s appetites for any reason, spiritual or pragmatic. Even delayed gratification is out of the question, if we take his stance literally.

(Such is my interpretation of comments such as this: “So it is better for the man to live in despair than to die? Why shouldn’t a man be the judge of his own best option?”) 

He makes the same error several times: instead of merely saying that the laws should be concerned only with the harms men might do one to another, he says instead that morals and ethics should be concerned only with the harms men do one to another, and that any harm a man does himself is a matter of total moral agnosticism, up to an including self-deception, opium addiction, self-betrayal, sadism toward animals, and outright suicide.  All these are totally arbitrary personal choices no more open to criticism or philosophical examination than an arbitrary taste for pie over cake.

There is no contradiction to say, as most libertarians do, that personal integrity and rationality is necessary for a happy life and a just one, but that the guardianship of public morality and decency is a private matter. The fact that my opponent speaks of organizing boycotts against pornographers or dog-burners shows, on the one hand, that he has some notion of an ethical standard that applies to individuals, and that, on the other hand, he has not yet realized the implication of that notion.

Let us briefly look at the core axiom of the Freedonians. It is a mere assertion, as an axiom, that freedom from aggression is an absolute that outweighs all other competing rights and considerations.

In the paragraphs above, I have not sought to prove that this axiom is right or wrong. All I have done is proved that, if liberty from aggression is held to be more valuable than any competing value, then it is held to be of more value than life itself, in those particular cases where the two values clash. If this is so, the axiom cannot be defended on Eudemonistic grounds.

You can say, if you wish, that liberty is an absolute good, trumping all other values; but you cannot say that liberty is a good because it supports the higher values we call human life and happiness.

So far I have only made the limited argument that, in these cases, Freedonian children have less chance of surviving to old age than children in Tanstaaflia. I have not even addressed a much larger issue, that the atomization of the family and the nation into a group of self-centered solipsists, as jealous as Jehovah of any impositions on their precious individual rights, cannot help but form a nation more vulnerable to raids and attacks by ambitious neighbors than would be, for example, a like number of Spartans, or even Englishmen from the time of Victoria or Cromwell. If two nations, in all other respects equal, differ because one is filled with patriots willing and eager to serve, and the other is filled with the Me First Whine Most Generation, which would you prefer as your protector and ally in time of war and tribulation?  

Since the principle of Absolute Nonaggression is an axiom, and since I do not know why I (or anyone) should accept that axiom, I can only address one comment against it:

Absolute Nonaggression is in direct and logical contradiction with the other axiom of his system, the Principle of Total Moral Agnosticism. Since we cannot use reason to overcome lust, or any other self-destructive emotion, and since we cannot even criticize, correct, or instruct other people, ergo we are left unable to justify the sanctity granted to total non-aggression.

Certainly we cannot conclude, without some clearer argument, that total nonaggression has any survival value over a more traditional view of government’s role being a necessary evil, that can sometimes contradict this principle.

Naturally, there are other things in life, aside from survival value, that the idea of base hedonism, total selfishness, total moral agnosticism and absolute nonaggression offend, but time does not permit. I leave those arguments as an exercise for the reader.

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Shameless Self-Promotion

Posted January 25, 2008 By John C Wright

http://www.milscifi.com/files/inter-JCW-BTH.htmWhy, LOOK! An interview with that famous, if rotund, figure: ME! My favorite person: ME! Talking about my favorite topic: ME!

My ego is so big it enters the room four minutes before I do. Many of us in the clown business, oh, excuse me, I mean speculative literature, suffer this deformity: it acts as a layer of defensive blubber to ward off barbs from critics and editors.
(I sure hope the Catholics are right, and there is a Purgatory, some place to burn off this excess spiritual fat. No way I am getting into Heaven at one go.)

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A challenge!

Posted January 24, 2008 By John C Wright

kaltrosomos raps upon my shield and defies me to tourney. Gladly I raise my lance to meet him.

 

                John, you said:

“Talking to pagans, real pagans (I mean, not neopagans) is a relief after talking to a hedonist, because at least the pagan and the Christian have some common ground: we both know life is magic. Pagans do not usually go around telling people that Darwinian proves scientifically that women are meat-bags meant for nothing better in life than to be abused by male sexual predation.”

Equating darwinism with viewing women as ‘meatbags’ meant only for male abuse is a slander and an insult to honest people like me who do not have any particular religious faith. Unless you can better defend this claim I challenge you to take back these words like the balderdash they are.

I do not believe that women are simply meatbags, any more than men are. I do not seek to sexually exploit every woman I lay eyes on, though I will readily admit that i have certain thoughts not suited to polite conversation. I think most men have these thoughts, whether they admit it or not. Just look at your own enthusiasm for Space Princesses, John. It was enough to try and start your own movement! If all you loved about space princesses was their sparkling wit and philosophical depth, why do you keep posting pictures of them, and of beautiful women in general? Why not write a story in which a dashing young space cadet’s only interaction with a space princess is to talk with her through a crack in the wall that seperates them into two prison cells, so that they never see or touch each other? Lets get rid of this popular image of space princesses running around with giant steel mixing bowls for shirts. If nothing else, they should at least get to wear something more comfortable.

My reply:

I will defend gladly and gallantly, the comment I made, but I cannot defend the comment you heard: because the two are not the same. I am saying something much narrower than what you heard. For the lack of clarity on my part, I apologize, because I can see how what I wrote could be misread.

One of the comments here on this blog, a fellow whose name I forget, claimed that Darwin “proved” that each man’s biological drives and make-up made it morally acceptable to fornicate, and to do anything else one’s appetites provoked, and morally reprehensible to pass laws enforcing a marriage custom or social discipline and organization.

Obviously Darwin said nothing of the kind. Darwin’s theory was that new species emerge due to decent through modification according to natural selection. Darwin made no moral value-judgments; nor can any scientist confirm or deny a value-judgment by means of the empirical method.

Darwin, nor any physical science, ever said anything about the nature of man’s morals and conscience and its relation to his molecular and electro-neural composition. Obviously no one can see, weigh, or measure an imponderable: so no empirical statement can have an imponderable as it subject matter. 

However, it is a commonplace among a group I like to call “the science barbarians” to claim that science has proven men have no free will, or to say that the white master-race is evolutionarily superior to the black slave-race, or to say that science proves we are morally obligated to sterilize the retarded, infirm, and unfit, to abort the unwanted and inflict euthanasia on the aged or useless, who are too weak to fight back. The forces of scientific barbarism make several claims about science, all of them false.

Socialists generally delight in these various false claims that science justifies race warfare or class warfare, genocide or mass-murder, eugenics or abortion. The gentler version of science barbarismmakes a smaller claim. Ever since the sexual revolution, the false claim is that fornication is a natural right and marriage is a monstrous evil, either because Darwin proves men have an innate mating instinct that it is unnatural to hinder or govern, or because of some argument equally weak and arbitrary.

My claim here is that no pagans, not real pagans who honor the ashes of their fathers and the temples of their gods, who see the mysteries of life as a thing of magic and wonder, with dryads in every tree and nymphs in every stream, would ever utter such a piece of crass science-barbarism.

If a pagan is eager for fornication, he might claim Aphrodite justifies his imprudence, but never Darwin.

As for the rest, lust is one of my besetting sins. All men have thoughts not suited to polite conversation: that is why it is so important to maintain standards of polite conversation. You and I are in total agreement on that point. You are making an accusation I would never dream of denying. I am a sinner, and below average in that regard.

My comment, if you reread it, is merely that pagans DO NOT make a particular false equation between Darwinism and scientific barbarism. It is not a statement that one must be a theist in order to avoid scientific barbarism. I would hope that it is sufficient to not be a barbarian to avoid scientific barbarism.

Put more logically, what I said was the set “Barbarians who justify their depravity, sexual or otherwise, using a fallacious argument from Darwinism” are all members of the set “People who believe Darwin’s theory provides a moral theory.” Those people are all members of the set “People who believe Darwin’s theory.”

Let us call the first set the Science-barbarians. Let us call the second set Science-worshipers. Let us call the third set Darwinists.

All science-worshiper are Darwinists, but not all Darwinists are science-worshipers. All science-barbarian are science-worshipers, but not all science-worshipers are science-barbarians.

No one who believes that all the natural world is governed by and caused by gods or by a God is in a position to believe (without an unjustified paradox) that Darwin’s theory is the source and fountainhead of moral theory. Hence, no pagan, if he is a real pagan and not merely an antichristian looking for an excuse, can be a science-worshiper. Since all science-barbarians are science-worshipers, no pagan can be a science-barbarian.

I hope I have met and satisfied your challenge?  

 

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Mundane SF and the New Space Princess Movement

Posted January 24, 2008 By John C Wright

My Jesuit confessor, Father de Casuistry, has just been released by the Time Cops from his unjust imprisonment in the Ice Age, fought his way with ray-pistol and rosary-beads up from the vampire-infested hollow core of the planet, emerged from a volcano crater in Iceland, swam the raging North Atlantic in the frozen dead of midwinter through maelstrom and hurricane, arrive here, heard my confession, and as penance threw me through a plate glass window down four stories into the tarmac, where I was run over by a streetcar. Then he gave me KP, PT and pushups in full kit. Boy. I thought I would get a few ‘Hail Mary’s’ or something. Don’t let priests watch Ahnold Swartzkopf movies, or it gives ’em ideas.

Anyway, what I have been doing wrong is writing on my blog instead of on my latest novel. The novel is going to be a thoughtful in-depth character study and reflection on the existential melancholy of the human condition set in a well-researched science fictional background based on the latest cutting-edge discoveries of modern physics: the working title is LESBIAN LOVE SLAVES OF THE BONDAGE BITCH OF MARS.

No, no, just kidding. The novel is actually going to be a heartwarming Christmastime-tale of family love, rivalry, and reconciliation, the births and losses, the humor and heartbreak of life in the near-future. The working title is DEATHCOUNT! THE REVENGE OF AGENT BLOODSLAUGHTER!

In any case, no more posting until Fridays for me. This time, I promise. For sure. Really. Hard at work. Novel writing.

But of course (of course!) there is nothing wrong with just posting a link!

Here is an essay on the Mundane SF movement. And here is the ruminations of esteemed SF writer Ian McDonald on the topic.

Now, I have to admit to an all-consuming jealousy, the kind of thing that makes the main character in Edgar Allen Poe’s A TELLTALE HEART commit murders and go stark gibbering mad. It seems as if the Mundane SF movement is garnering more attention and more support than the New Space Princess movement that I started as a joke! That hardly seems fair! Here are people who have something interesting to say about the future of SF, and it is getting treated with more respect than my completely shallow crackpot idea!! Where is the justice in that?

You see, if I had been serious, this could have turned into a serious and interesting debate, because the Space Princess movement  could act as a vanguard and spokesman for all writers and readers who want to see the fantasy aspects of science fiction, the sense of wonder, the romance, the time travel, the thinking machines larger than earth, the psionic mind-readers, the ninjas, the space-dinosaurs, the ninja-space-dinosaurs, the space-pirates, the amoeba-men, the ninja-space-dinosaurs of Mars fighting the psionic mind-reading space pirate amoeba-men of Boskone, and everything else that makes pulp-rooted science fiction the great genre it is. We could have taken the first step to undo the work John W. Campbell Junior did in introducing realistic science into science fiction during the Golden Age!

Butnow it is too late, and all we can do is post internet pictures of space princesses showing bare midriffs. Alack and wailaway.

You might not recognize her, but this above is Yin-Ylan, Flower of Cath, from a cartoon adaptation of Jack Vance’s TSCHAI books. She is a real honest-to-space Space Princess, but her fate is particularly Vancean. Vance characters never get the girl.

 

Evil Space Princess Aura, of course, standing between a evil barbarian space-viking and an evil space-mandarin!
She is the living symbol of our movement! Of course, she never gets the guy, does she? Flash Gordon escapes her evil, lust-filled painted-fingernailed clutches, doesn’t he, and she has to settle for that Robin Hood second-rate wannabe, the Green Arrow of Outer Space, Prince Barin of Arboria. Jeesh! I simply hate that Dale Arden! The Earthwoman is always spoiling Aura’s plans!

 

Irulan. So if princess Irulan fought princess Aura, who would win? Irulan could have her dad send his Saudakar Terror-Troops against her rival, or maybe even her messianic superhuman husband, Paul, but on the other hand, Aura could send her dad’s various Shark-men, Lava-men, Beast-men, robots and mutants. One the one hand, Ming the Merciless is immortal, but on the other hand, the Padishah Emperor has a greatly extended lifespan due to his addiction to the geriatric spice. The spice extends life! The spice expands consciousness! The spice is more addictive than thionite, and it is only a matter of time before the Galactic Patrol finds the apex of these drug-runners and smashes their whole evil zwilnick drug-ring! We all know the Padishah Emperor is merely another name for the Tyrant of Thrale, don’t we?

You see, while the Mundane SF movement is discussing the nature of human destiny and the role of realism in futuristic literature, we here at the Space Princess movement are discussing what Carrie Fisher looks like in a metal bikini.

 

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Dialog with a Pagan

Posted January 23, 2008 By John C Wright

Talking to pagans, real pagans (I mean, not neopagans) is a relief after talking to a hedonist, because at least the pagan and the Christian have some common ground: we both know life is magic. Pagans do not usually go around telling people that Darwinian proves scientifically that women are meat-bags meant for nothing better in life than to be abused by male sexual predation.
From time to time one finds an inauthentic pagan hiding in their ranks: a person who follows, not the real rites and values of paganism, but who, out of distaste for Christianity, follows the values that Christian propaganda wrongfully and falsely attributed to their pagan rivals. Such a person is not really a pagan: he is merely an anti-Christian. He wants to be lax; he wants to live according to a low and base moral standard; he sees in their (false) stories that Christians told each other the pagans were lax; so he decides to be a pagan. This would be like someone escaping Communist Russia, and, desiring to become an American Capitalist, decided to copy the lifestyle and values of Ebenezer Scrooge and dress like Rich Uncle Pennybags from the Monopoly game. The evil American Capitalist of socialist propaganda is a fiction as much as the Hugh Hefner Pagan, dressed in a toga and skipping off to an orgy at Nero’s. Real pagans killed Vestal Virgins who broke their vow of virginity by burying them alive. Clytemnestra killed Agamemnon with in axe in the bathtub because he dallied with his slavegirl Cassandra. An authentic pagan would recognize the respect and awe with which pagans surrounded chastity, virginity, marriage, and fertility.
Our friendly neighborhood pagan answers thus:

“Pagan is an annoyingly general term, I’m afraid. Clytemnestra (who is probably a mythical figure anyway) was Greek and followed the Dodekatheon, the Greek patheon of gods. Vestal virgins were a roman invention, same patheon. I follow the Trutha De Dannen, the Ancient British gods. Totally different attitude to sex. For the Celtic peoples of early Britain, sex was a thing to enjoy, not resrict. Anyway, Clytemnestra’s murder had more to do with Agamemnon sacrificing their daughter than poor Casssandra. I could also point out that in the same patheon there are a number of gods (most notably Zeus and Aphrodite) who were big with the extra-marital sex.) However I should also point out I’m not talking about adultery when I say that any consensual sex is OK. That was, admittedly, a mistake on my part. Adultery is a betrayal of your wife/husband and unless the marriage is coming apart anyway, I would not approve. As to getting pregnant, only a fool would have sex without a condom in this day and age. You say sex without love is degrading. If you’d said sex without affection, I might agree. But love is a big word, not to be used lightly. There is nothing wrong with two people who like each other both enjoying sex together. A simple rubber johnny can remove almost all risk of pregnancy or infection, both parties are enjoying themselves, why not? If someone just wants to “get their end away,” thats degrading. Marriage is a mere social construct, sex is real. Finally, I completely disagree that a low self-image goes with casual sex. To me it seems you must have great confidence and intellegence to be able to separate sex from commitment and to recognise whether your partner feels the same.”

Let me deal with these comments seriatim:

“Clytemnestra’s murder had more to do with Agamemnon sacrificing their daughter…”

This is true but irrelevant. One could also call the murder political, because she wished to consolidate power over Mycenae with her lover Aegisthus (who was the true heir). But, nonetheless, my point still stands. The pagans did not scratch their heads in confusion when, in the play, Clytemnestra listed, as one of her offenses with her husband, that he had betrayed their marriage bed. The concept of marriage being sacred was known and common to the classical Greek.

If she is a mythic figure, my argument is stronger, not weaker. Mythic figures represent the paramount values and virtues and show how society regards them. If Clytemnestra were merely a real Queen, her personal hate for Agamemnon represents nothing but her personal motives. If she is a myth, her hate is the hate of all betrayed women, and represents the Greek spirit taken as a whole.

 “I could also point out that in the same patheon there are a number of gods who were big with the extra-marital sex.”

You could, but you are wiser not to. The offense of Juno with Jove is too well known, as is the tale of Vulcan trapping his wayward wife in a net with her lover, Mars. The men who told these tales clearly regarded the gods who dallied as committing an offense. These tales, not one of them, were used to excuse sexual liberation. These were tales told of the scandals of the gods, not of their sacred acts: they were warning tales, telling of things the audience ought not do, not edifying tales, telling of things the audience should admire and emulate. We gossip similar tales of Slick Willie Clinton, because the scandals of powerful world-leaders are more interesting than the scandals of the dog-catcher.

“I follow the Trutha De Dannen, the Ancient British gods. Totally different attitude to sex. For the Celtic peoples of early Britain, sex was a thing to enjoy, not restrict”

Um … what? The Tuatha de Danu have no myths nor rites celebrated or supporting sexual liberation. Even the Mayday rites of Imbolc were fertility rites, mean to increase the yield of crops and the numbers of babies and livestock, not to restrict it: and even then the rite was hedged about with ceremonial and sacred protections. It was more akin to the Jewish custom of having a brother sleep with your widow so that your line would not fail, than to any modern notion of sexual permissiveness. You are reading modern post-Hugh-Hefner notions of philosophy back into strict tribal law if you think those ancient peoples did not have marriage rites, and take them seriously.

There were several degrees of marriage among the Celts, depending on the property provisions involved, but unfaithfulness was one of several grounds for divorce. There is no evidence that the Celts condoned seduction or fornication.

The Celts had a type of marriage custom that allowed the husband of a sterile woman to take a concubine to father a child upon: if this reminds you of the handmaiden of Abraham, it should come as no surprise. Sex out of wedlock, as far as modern scholarship can tell, was considered rape or seduction, and was cause for a clan-war.

Handfasting was not marriage: it was betrothal, which was also sacred to them. If betrothed couple “consummated” then they were married in the full sense.  

Other differences between these legal forms of marriage and later, Christian, forms, was that (1) Christians insisted the consent of the woman be forthcoming (Lanamnas eicne no sleithe – allowed by the Celts, a union or mating by forcible rape or stealth, was not permitted by the Christians) (2) Christians insisted on no divorce, and (3) insisted on one mate for life. If anything, the Christians had a more spiritual and individualistic view of marriage, which did not always have property arrangements in view, as opposed to the Celts, which did. 

There was a different form for a landless man marrying a cattle-owning woman than for a landless woman marrying a cattle-owning man, for example. The Christians treated rich and poor alike, and even a Baron could not divorce a Baroness any more than a farmer could divorce a farmwife. Baron and serf alike, patrician and plebian, were bound by the same law: this is a Christian innovation.

Indeed, I am tempted to say all the Christians did was Romanize the institution, that is, bring a measure of consistency and law to the matter, clarifying, simplifying, and making explicit what was otherwise implicit.

Now, are the Christian notions of chastity and marriage more strict and absolute than the pagan notions? Certainly. Without doubt. Romans allowed for divorce— for that matter, so did Jewish law– and the Christian Gospel simply does not. Does that mean the Romans were carefree Hefnerian playboys? No more than are the Jews, or, for that matter, the Anglicans, who also allow for divorce. What about Celts and Norsemen, devotees of Odin and Ogma? We know something of their laws and customs, some of their myths and rites survive: the sex act was surrounded by gaes and tabu, laws and rites, prohibitions and duties, just as those of civilized men, and if anything these duties were even more complex and strict. Civilized written law goes a long way to simplifying custom and tabu, after all, once the pen of the legislator harmonizes and simplifies the inherited body of civic practices.

“However I should also point out I’m not talking about adultery when I say that any consensual sex is OK”

Fair enough, but fornication is not different from adultery except in the contractual sense. An adulterer offends against the sacred character of marriage AND he breaks his marriage vow. The fornicator offends against the sacred character of marriage BUT he has no marriage vow to break.

 “You say sex without love is degrading. If you’d said sex without affection, I might agree.”

No, here I must politely but in the strongest terms disagree. If you have sex with someone to whom your emotion is merely lukewarm, a friendship or a temporary passion, then you have degraded sex from being a sacred thing to being a mere entertainment.

Affection is not true love. Affection is not a lifelong vow of fidelity. Affection is not the cornerstone of the hearth of the house, the foundation of the city, the stairway to higher and better life. Love is.

No matter whether you think sex should be degraded is another issue: if you think perhaps we Christians have made it more sacred than it deserves, you and I can debate. But you cannot debate that we, who reserve sex only between a couple that has vowed a sacred and mystical vow, blessed by beautiful God Almighty, and only when we vow absolute love without any spot of compromise, for better or worse, treat sex as much higher a grade of thing than anyone who says sex is mere for the pleasure of a summer fling, or a weekend fling, or an hour’s diversion.

Love is sacred. Our god is Love. You degrade love even by daring to speak so about this topic: you treat it like a casual thing, a thing too weak to be worth living and dying for, a thing too weak to ruin lives.

Casual sex can ruin lives. Look around you.   

“Marriage is a mere social construct.”

This is rank modernist piffle. Marriage constructed society; society did not construct marriage.

Marriage is part of the inescapable logic of having a species of two sexes whose offspring are unfit at birth to care for themselves: the human heart was created (or evolved, take your pick) to prefer permanent love to casual mutual exploitation.

There are, I grant you, polygamous societies where women are exploited rather than cherished as they ought: but I will laugh in scorn if you tell me that the sacred respect and reverence we owe to women is a social construct, rather than an innate aspect of true femininity. Societies that abolished concubinage and harem made a discovery, not an invention.

If the respect we owe women is granted by society, then society, without any wrongdoing, can take that grant away. Are you willing to say that?

“There is nothing wrong with two people who like each other both enjoying sex together.”

I would say imprudence, improvidence, the lack of self-control, the degradation of womanhood, the erosion of marriage, the coarsening of the sentiments, the abolition of romance, are all wrongs done when sex is shared by lukewarm lovers.

I would say that casual sex it degrades and demeans the sex act, rendering the couple unable to enjoy real love, should real love ever come. It makes the sex act selfish, and the people selfish. Selfish people break other social bonds as well, and damage society. Look around you are the society in which we live. How many people do you know who come from broken homes? Most social pathologies can be traced back to broken homes and absent fathers, everything from bad grades in school to high juvenile crime to teen drug abuse and teen pregnancy. Most evils can be traced back to a lack of love.

Casual sex and true love are mutually exclusive. You can have one or the other: not both. The reason for this is that the human mind, when sane, is organic, and forms a complete and harmonious whole; and when that organism is broken, when the whole of your mind becomes compartmentalized and scattered parts, you have become, if not insane, then at least a person lacking integrity. Love cannot have, at the same time and the same sense, a paramount value in your life, and also be the matter of an nonchalant summer fling.

“Finally, I completely disagree that a low self-image goes with casual sex.”

I mean no disrespect, but you talk like someone who does not know any human beings, or has only read about them in books. Some writers have a vested interest in portraying human nature as something without a moral nature, you know, and so not all books can be trusted.

Tell me how fine and self-assured are all these women who, once they have been used and abused and left alone, waiting for their lover’s phone call that never comes, looking in an empty mailbox for a love letter than never arrives, can esteem themselves to be a greater value than a woman who waited for a prince, and man who every day of his life rejoices in the bonds that tie them together as one flesh, a bond that nothing on earth can sever? Tell me how that is possible? What is more likely is that the woman grows cynical and callous, and tells herself that she does not need a man. She tells herself she does not want or need to love or to be loved.

The bridegroom forswears all other women when he weds: in effect, he pays her bride price. He gives up all the world, for her. He vows to love, honor and cherish. He pays her bride price. He gives up every part of his soul  and possessions to her. With all his worldly goods he her endows, and he worships her with his body.

The casual lover gives up, what, again, exactly? Some of his spare time? Some of his spare change? Faugh! A girl who rates her price at a cut-rate bargain-basement cost cannot in any sense of the word be said to rate herself at the same price as a woman who asks for, demands, and gets, her bridegroom’s whole world. She esteems herself at a lower rate than her sister who demanded a higher price.

My wife is my life. I live for her and would die for her. What casual lover, even one who retains some friendliness for his demimonde after his ardor cools, would dare say the same? He cannot love two women with one undivided loyalty, can he? We each of us have only one life to devote to his beloved, but I have vowed it, and he has not. It is a vow I cannot break or take back.

I treat my wife like a goddess, not like a fast-food store erected for my convenience. I only wish I could love her more, so that I would not disappoint her in little things.

“To me it seems you must have great confidence and intellegence [sic] to be able to separate sex from commitment and to recognise whether your partner feels the same.”

Forgive me, but this is naive. I will explain to you the facts of life: Human beings, when they sin, make up dumb excuses to justify themselves, the foremost one of which is, to call themselves more intelligent than people who shun sin. They have no evidence of any increase of intelligence over the rest of us: in fact, the studied inability to see the long-term consequences of their actions would seem to betray a certain challenge to their intellectual abilities, a thickwittedness.

Another aspect of human nature is that we humans prefer for others to like and love us, rather than treat us like convenient meat bags to squirt semen into. Men, women, and children, all like the various forms of love and family and friendship that makes human bonds. We do not like to be alone. We do not like when casual lovers use us and lose us: we deserve better.

You call yourself a pagan, but there is more magic, more ancient strength in the great god Hymen, than in all your little modernized version of the great and ancient Danu gods. If you were a real pagan you would quail for the Great Mother and ask her forgiveness for offending her sacred rite: did the Sky-father and the Earth-Mother merely agree on a casual fling? Is all the life-wealth and fertility of the springtide really worth nothing?

Are Dagda Ollathir the All-Father and the Morrigan the Great Queen really married, or not?

Is Brigid a virgin? Is virginity sacred to the Bride of Candlemas?

Let us look at the parallel myths among the Welsh. Is it perfectly acceptable, an act without consequence, for Gilvaethwy to seduce the virgin who must hold the king’s feet in times of peace? Is there nothing ritualistic, nothing sacred, nothing magical in her virginity? I seem to recall the myths held the seduction of Goewin to involve as much strife as the seduction of Helen.

Is life sacred to you, pagan? Is human life sacred? Is the generation of life sacred? Is the act that generates life sacred? Do you have a ceremony, a rite, a sacrament, a vow that protects the generation of human life? Is sex sacred?

If you say the mysteries of life are not sacred in your religion, I say your religion is hollow: something you have invented for your own convenience, not something that reached down from the World Beyond this World and claimed your soul with an undeniable claim!

If you are really a pagan, tell me: why do you not practice the spiritual purity of your forefathers, including the rites of marriage?

If you are the pagan, why am I the one defending the sacredness of fertility and sacredness of the creation of life to you, instead of the other way around?

You cannot wear a condom and worship a fertility goddess!

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Life at the Bottom

Posted January 23, 2008 By John C Wright

“And why should anyone believe that sex between nonmarried people is an “evil act”, if they don’t happen to follow your particular religion? Can you think of a purely philosophical argument for this that is not based on claims that some particular book was divinely inspired?”

Please reread what I wrote. I gave both prudential and existential reasons for avoiding fornication, not one of which referenced a deity. It is a chain of reasoning that convinced me long before I was a theist that a pro-fornication culture, for obvious reasons, cannot be a pro-marriage culture at the same time and in the same sense: I mean specifically that the laws, the informal customs, and the general consensus of opinion combine to support one institution of necessity undercut support for the other.

Seeing that they are mutually exclusive, one must make a judgment for one or the other. There is no neutral ground and no third option.  

The non-divine reasons for the judgment to favor marriage are biological and psychological and economical and Darwinian.

The biological reason is that humans are Precocial (born helpless) and bisexual (requiring two sexes to reproduce).

The psychological reason is that children reared in broken homes or fatherless homes contribute to general social pathologies, juvenile delinquency, and so on.

The economic reason is that what men gain lightly, they esteem lightly. A fornicating culture lowers the value placed on women: they are treated like dirt, and their hurt feelings and broken hearts are dismissed by playboys as insignificant.  

The Darwinian logic favors families and clans where children have two parents: infant mortality is more rare if the father does not abandon the mother.

There are, in addition, reason of morality, of philosophy, and of honor to judge in favor of marriage, none of which necessarily references a deity.

The moral reason is that it is unfair to exploit the weak and helpless, to abuse the trust of women, or to abandon your child without rearing it. A society that permits and encourages fornication, no matter what it says about the rights of women, in reality permits and encourages exploitation and abandonment.

The philosophical reason is that true love is finer and nobler than cheap sex, and, as sad experience shows, the two are mutually exclusive. Even without making a judgment call between their relative merits, one is a long-term good, inviting a harmony of interests to all involved; and the other is a short-term good, inviting a disharmony of interests. Hatred is the normal and expected reaction between father and mother not bound by marriage: fear and loathing for the child is the reason for the high abortion rate and the high rate of the murder of children by the unwed mother’s live-in boyfriends, who kill them for reasons of Darwinian logic.  

Honor, if nothing else, demands a man pay what he owe, both to business partners, and to his homeland, but also to his family: no one denies a primary obligation of a man who fathers a child is to rear it and see to its education and support.

Tenderness for childhood, if nothing else, recoils at the thought of putting oneself in situation where it is in one’s best interests to kill or abandon one’s own child. The marriage institution attempts to create a harmony of interests between the reproducing couple, and between parent and child, by imposing reciprocal duties not easily escaped. The economics of being able to rely upon a covenant, and having a rational expectation of performance, over mere anarchy, needs no defense from me: it is obvious.

The crux of the argument is that a man, nor a society, cannot support a contradiction. If you admire or tolerate fornication, you do not admire and do not tolerate the demands of marriage.

The axiom of the argument is that a man’s values shape and are shaped by his words and actions. No one can copulate without it having a profound effect on his psychology; the act of treating it casually, as an act without meaning and without consequences, is itself profoundly crippling to one’s sense of romance, one’s sense of self worth, one’s respect for and desire for true love. A woman who shares herself with a man and feels nothing is psychologically damaged: she has the sentiments of a harlot, and healthy folk recoil.

Need I go on? Are you seriously telling me that, if I were to regard all the famous atheists and agnostics of history, not a one of them, these fine thinkers, not one would see any reason to avoid an act of reckless and selfish self-indulgence? Not one of them believes in true love? Not one of them believes in self-discipline? Not one believes in living up to your oaths?

Not one was ever a father of a daughter?

I don’t take your comments seriously.   

“And you talk as though there is some essential psychological difference between men and women, as if they have totally distinct natures from men…”

The comment is extraordinarily naive. You talk like someone who has no manhood and has never met a real women.

There are psychological differences between the sexes, or, if there were not, such differences should be artificially encouraged, as they have survival value for the clan. The prime difference is that women bear children and men do not. Consequently the cost-risk ratio for a woman indulging in sex outside marriage is higher for her than for the man. She ends up with the baby; he ends up with a trophy wife. Hence it is wiser for her to be reluctant to mate, and to select between several prospective mates (perhaps with a father armed with shotgun to drive off too-eager suitors), and to prefer the mate willing and able to vow a lifetime commitment.

Certainly a father does not take proper provision for his grandchildren, or the clan for its generations, if he merely permits his daughter to fornicate, for then his grandchild will be raised as a bastard– and there is an economic disadvantage to being a one-parent-raised child, even where there is no social stigma– or, if the mother is a modern woman, his grandchild might be killed in the womb without even any notice to him. One does not need to be religious, merely aware of ordinary human bonds of love and family, to believe grandparents have a duty to be prudent and to see to the health and safety of their grandchildren when possible.

One of the several purposes of marriage is to prevent this exploitation of women by men: one point of the mating custom, among others, is to identify paternity. Another point is to check male sexual rivalry by placing women who are claimed beyond reach. There are fewer murders of rivals in societies where the marriage custom is respected.

COMMENT ADDED LATER: It occurs to me that the argument being given here is actually highly insulting to atheists. I mean the argument given by my reader, not my argument.

Atheists are often irate (and rightly so) when Christians simply assume atheism means immorality, or simply assume all atheists want to commit crimes and sins. All the atheists I know personally are men of sterling character, honest and trustworthy, and it is their honesty — do you hear me, their honesty!– which does not allow them to believe in a god: they think the tales of god they have heard are fairy-tales and lies, and their honesty will not let them believe in a lie.

But here come this fellow, and his claim is that no one is honest in matter of love and sex except the theist. Look at what he says: if there is no reason, aside from belief in god, to believe in chastity, ergo no agnostic or atheist has reason to be chaste. Not one person, not one soul contemporary or historical, has ever practiced or cherished chastity, or honored the institution of marriage, or ever treated a woman honorably, except followers of a biblical religion.

He just called all atheist and agnostic women Jezebel and he just called all atheist men Lothario.

What do you say,  ladies?  I say you were made for love, that true love is your destiny, and that if you settle for less than a man who loves you with his whole heart and soul, life has cheated you. I say you are all princesses, each woman a queen in her own hearth, or a goddess. He says you are all sluts if you don’t believe in God, and fools if you do.

Whose side are you on, all you women who believe in romance and love?

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Dialog with a Hedonist

Posted January 22, 2008 By John C Wright

A reader who rejoices in the name Flamingphonebook poses a few pointed questions for me. It is a bit of a waste of time to answer at length, as I have here, and I really should be working on my novel, but the poor young man ( I assume he is a young male — on the internet, one never knows) sounds so much like the way I sounded when I was half my age and twice my arrogance, that I thought I owed him a reply. It is not as polite as I could have made it, but I hope he is now something like I was then, and he appreciates plain blunt sarcasm.

Me (being quoted): “There are things worse than violence.”

You: What are they, pray tell?

Me: Suicide is worse than violence: it would be better to break the arm of a man who has done you no harm than to let him throw himself in despair off a building.

 

Injustice is worse than violence. It is better to fight than to submit to the arrogance of a settled injustice, even if you fight giants. Better to die free than to live a slave.

Tyranny is worse than violence. The peaceful nation that lives next to a blood-thirsty tyrant, and suffers the tyrant to live in peace, has offended that great duty which human nature, which right reason and heaven itself commands: it is the duty of all free men to spend their blood and treasure to overthrow slavers and dictators, and to strike the shackles from the oppressed. It is not merely permitted to launch an unprovoked attack against a tyrant, it is impermissible to delay doing so. To allow the government of Cuba, for example, to continue, while we still have one fit miltiaman, one unspent cartridge, nay, one knife, is a moral wrong: it is the mortal sin of sloth, the despair of attempting that which duty commands. 

Barbarism is worse than violence.  It is better for civilization to spread than for barbarism to spread, and if this cannot be done peacefully, let it be done violently.

Hell is worse than violence.

There are men who would say, and I was once one of them, that Dishonor is worse than violence. If someone, in perfect peace, and within his legal rights, insults your wife, it is better to fight him and be beaten and go to jail for it than to accept the insult meekly. I cannot argue with these men, for the only reason why I no longer support this view is that a Greater Power, whom I serve and fear, has commanded me to eschew it. But if no such power has so commanded you, what rational account can you give to support your view that violence is worse than dishonor, to a man who says dishonor is worse than violence?

That man who stands between your loved home and the desolation of war and anarchy: and his philosophy is not, and cannot be, peace at any price.

Below are some other questions you ask, but the answers, I fear, will do you little good, since they are not asked as part of a structured conversation. Out of courtesy to you, I answer each as if meant seriously, and perhaps you can tell me what point you are driving at.

You: What is a sin and what is a crime for people to be guilty of? What guilt attaches to one who shuns marriage and children?

Me again: Sin is an offense against the moral structure of reason and reality. For Christians, sin is an offense against the glory of God; for secular humanists, sin is an offense against the glory of human nature and human potential. A man who has the talent to produce art, but instead produces trash for monetary gain, commits a sin, I think both Christian and secular humanist might agree, even if they disagree about the details. Crime is offense against the law. The guilt that attaches to one who shuns marriage and children depends on his reason for shunning it. Is he a priest, who seeks a higher calling, and wants to serve God? No guilt attaches to a priest for being celibate. Is he a playboy, who shuns marriage because he is selfish, he has no character, he wants to use women as pleasure objects only, and never to be in love? He is guilty of several deep crimes, including lust and pride and sloth, and cheats himself of happiness, and destroys his God-given human potential to be a pillar of society. He is a drone, worthless, and he has sold his gold and exchanged it for tin, the metal that corrupts other metals it touches.

You: A churchman has every right to correct the members of his church. He has no right to correct the members of another church or the members of no church. Particularly, if the churchman’s rules are more restrictive than the atheist’s, he has no right to use force to place his restrictions on the children–or the adults–who hold to a less restrictive standard.

Me: No argument here. I merely wonder from whence comes your concept of “rights.”

You: A person who engages in violence is essentially admitting that he has no reasonable way to convince the other party to do what he wants them to do.

Me: Granted. Some people children and lunatics cannot listen to reason. And some people criminals do not. Against them it is right to use force to compel obedience to the standards of right and wrong.

You: He is achieving his desires unjustly.

Me: This simply does not follow. If I live next door to a child pornographer who sells blow-up dolls that look like my young son, and his business attracts a daily crowd of customers who linger in the street, leering at my boy and propositioning him, and if, to advertise his wares, my neighbor performs simulated or real sex acts on his roof, such that my peaceful enjoyment of my property is curtailed, there are sufficient negative consequences from his nonviolent acts to authorize me to use violence against him, or to call in the Crown to do so on my behalf.  

You: If all parties agree, without threat of violence, to engage in some practice, the practice may be foolhardy, but it is never immoral.

Me: Never immoral? What, never ever? What about an opium den? What about a suicide pact? What about a duel to the death? What about slowly burning a baby puppy to death on the stove, and filming the event? What about lying to yourself?  None of these things has any immorality to it? I wonder what your definition of morality is.  

You: You’ve every right to say that hedonism is wrong. You’ve every right to set up hedonism-free zones on the land you control. You’ve every right to form anti-hedonism clubs and require every member restrict himself accordingly. The evil comes when you set up a law that brings punishment on people who act hedonistically in private. The evil comes when you ban the manufacture or sale of a product or service that aids hedonists.

Me: So if my neighbor is selling child-porn blow up dolls that look like my son, and the local town meeting lawfully votes to outlaw his business, and the courts of law agree that this is constitutional, that is evil, a monstrous evil?

What if my neighbor is running a suicide abattoir, where people who are depressed can come and be unburdened from the pains of life, and he grinds the bodies into meat sausages, which he sells under the name Soylent Green, and only to patrons who fully know they are eating human flesh? What if my neighbor sends around agents to hunt up volunteers, and uses all the tricks and mechanisms of modern mass advertisement to glorify suicide, and urge people to give in to depression?

What about a man who seduces my thirteen-year-old daughter? Have I no right to beat him? I would say I have a duty to do so, and if a higher power did not command me to do otherwise, I would say that I am in neglect of normal fatherly duties to protect and rear the young if I let that seducer escape unmaimed. If state has not the power or inclination to protect my daughter, it is negligent in its duty to protect the citizens.

Have you ever studied law? Do you know that no legal system on Earth recognizes the sources and boundaries of lawful action as following the contour you outline? Now, if you wish to argue that all legal systems on Earth are wrong, please do so, but do not expect to convince someone who does not share your assumptions merely with a gratuitous assertion.

Your dick is not my god: I do not listen to its urgings with respect and reverence.  

Me (being quoted) : “And what if your attempts to escape the consequences of your actions are unsuccessful?”

You: They attach, just as if no attempts were made.

Me again:This admission is fatal to your argument. One of the several purposes of marriage is to identify paternity, and to ensure that no child comes into the world without the support of his father, a loving family, and a home. To promote this end, the traditional law was that no person unwilling or unable to act the role of a father in a family is allowed to engage in the act of sexual reproduction. While there may often be cases, even a majority, where the act of sexual reproduction is sterile, merely because the consequences of mischance are so high—if you father a child when you are not ready, you either have to kill the child or abandon hima blanket prohibition on imprudent sexual congress is more than justified under any set of principals. Even hard-core libertarians will admit you have to pay your debts, and that it is immoral to shift the burden and risk of your risk-taking activities onto the shoulders of someone (in this case, a child) who did not can cannot consent to bear them. It is like playing Russian roulette with someone else in front of the barrel. If the gun goes off, bang, the unborn child dies or is abandoned, not you. Now, if your birth control is fairly effective, you can add a large number of blank barrels to your revolver: let us say only four barrels in a hundred contain live ammo. Well, pal, if it is so safe, then there is no harm in demanding with the force of the law that the barrel be against your head and not the child’s. You are the one getting the pleasure of the copulation, after all, not him.

So a very simple rule is made and enforce. No one plays Russian roulette unless the barrel is at his temple. No couple copulates unless they are a wedded couple, a mommy and daddy for whom a third will be a blessing and not a curse. That way, if the unplanned gun goes off, there is a house ready to receive the child. Otherwise the Stork throws junior down the chimney of the abortion clinic, where they inject him with saline, and kill the little man, and deny him a burial. Not even a small coffin does he get.

You (continued): That does not make the attempts immoral.

Me: Actually, it does. Even if you assume the consequentialist line of argument (which I do not) once the consequences are above a certain magnitude such as when someone else’s life is at stake, or her lifelong happiness negligence in that case is so egregious that it is tantamount to deliberate and willful malice. It is evil to discharge a loaded firearm into a house, even though you may not know for sure the house is occupied. While you are not deliberately aiming at anyone, the risk of harm is so great that the act is beyond negligence, it is malign. Likewise to seduce a virgin you have no intent or means to marry. If she is pregnant, you have fathered a bastard. Killing the child hides the crime, but does not excuse it. Her chances of lifelong happiness are marred, perhaps beyond repair: she must either lower her standards to match yours, in which case she is an unpaid whore, or she must suffer a broken heart, because you are not the prince on a white steed she deserves. It is not merely negligent. It is evil.

You: A person who enjoys the free fall sensation from jumping out of a plane is not evil because he attempts to mitigate consequences by opening a parachute. Ah, but sexual congress isn’t the lone activity that skydiving is. It may affect another person. (It may, indeed, effect another person) How strong does the confidence interval have to be before the act becomes non-evil?

Me: I don’t follow the question here. I don’t know what you mean by “confidence interval” here. I don’t grant the idea that if the evil external consequences are avoided, the evil act is not evil: even when there are no consequences, and no harm done, self-indulgence cheapens your character and weakens your moral fiber. The damage is done to your mind and personality. You become a beast, merely a creature wallowing in base pleasures, enslaved to them. You are no longer a man.

You: A skydiver’s chute might fail and he might land on someone, killing them. But it’s so small a chance with the proper precautions. A sexual encounter might result in pregnancy to term, but with the proper precautions the chance of bad results is just as negligible.

Me: It is wrong for a woman to act like an unpaid whore. It demeans her, it cheapens her, and you are a panderer if you help and encourage her in that regard. Women were made for love, true love, and you coarsen a little girl’s ability to find and experience the wonders of true love if you talk her into hiking her skirts for you, a punk whose love is only skin deep, and who is hard pressed to remember her name the next day when you are sober.

You: The world is not evil, but it is non-ideal. Humans, which are of the world, have desires not met without payment. The world is contradictory in this respect. I think it erroneous to assume that the non-human part of the world is automatically in the right, and that the human part of the world must conform. From what principle does that assumption come?

Me: I am afraid I don’t follow the question here. Are you claiming self-control is from the non-human part of the world? I am not sure what you mean by the non-human part of the world. Reason is human. Using reason to restrain our temporary and self-destructive animal appetites is the sine qua non of human. I don’t know what you are talking about.

I would say the principle involved is the difference between internal and external reality. What is in our minds is under our control, and we bear the responsibility for it. What is outside, things like body, property, reputation, offices, is under the control of men or nature or the gods, and they bear the responsibility for it. We can control what is within us, and we cannot control what is outside us. It is possible, if difficult, to control an unreasonable appetite. It is impossible to force reality to be unreasonable.

You:  I could say the normal definitions of virtue is that which people want to do, and that the normal definition of vice is that which people do not want to do. This would be a definition that more accurately reflects people’s actions, if not their statements.

Me: I now regret that I took the time to type these answers. Go back to school. Read Marcus Aurelius and Epictetus.

Me (being quoted) : “This is the position of an undisciplined teenager. Forgive me, but this sounds like whining.”

You: Perhaps it does.

Me: Hmm.

You: And if I did believe in a god, I would have a few things to tell him about how things are run around here.

Me: So would I, but my words would be words of thanksgiving, and not of folly. I know a blind man, a member of holy orders, who thanks the Lord for his blindness. I know a preacher who has cerebral palsy, whose afflictions he bears not simply with fortitude, but with joy. That type of courage is impossible for you, because your life is self-centered, and your philosophy is shallow. Of course you would complain to your betters.

You are a complainer. You say you want to have sex without any real-world consequences.  Of course you have complaints, and you would offer them to a being who, if reports are accurate, is not merely older and wiser than you, but not merely infinitely wiser than you, but Omniscience itself. Well, son, even an infinite being cannot remove logic from cause and effect, cannot make selfishness a virtue or define good to include evil.

You see, my religion has daily, nay, hourly examples of men addicted to violence or drugs or stark wickedness who throw away their vices and never return to them once the Holy Spirit touches them. This is the norm, not a rare exception. Your philosophy of selfishness has nothing like this, nothing at all. Hedonism cannot comfort the prisoner in the dungeon or the cripple in the sickbed or the beggar in the gutter. Mine can. Telling a man who lives with daily cancer pain that pleasure is what he should live for is a sick joke. My boss can tell that same man to rise from his bed and walk, or from his grave. Your philosophy turns hardworking serious students into drunken pigs. My philosophy turns boys into men, and my religion turns men into saints. What have you got? Who has hedonism ever saved? Who ever said, “I used to kill men for money, but I found Epicurus, and thanks be! Now I wash lepers! I live only for me, glorious me, wonderful me!!” No one talks like that because nothing in life works like that.

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The last comment here might be of some interest to readers not concerned with the dialog above, since it is a miniature courtroom drama I am using to illustrate a point.

You: In any case, the self-control and discipline were far more valuable commodities when economic strength was less and survival came at a high cost. As we continue to build such that we get more reward for less work, the notion of discipline as a virtue will be revealed as the anachronism it is. The noble worker will be supplanted by the noble bon vivant.

Me: Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, rather than answer my opposing counsel, let me instead call to the stand three witnesses who will speak on his behalf.

The first is an Eloi of AD 802701.

 

Young lady, please tell the jury your name.

Eloi: Oena.

Me: Oena, do you live a life of pleasure and comfort?

Eloi: Oh, yes!

Me: Oena, would you say that the advance of technology leading up to your age, allowed mankind to do ever less work for ever more reward, until, finally, in your era, you do no work at all?

Eloi: I am not sure what those words mean. Would you like some fruit?

(Objection noted. The court instructs the counselor to limit his questions to the witness’s knowledge.)

Me: Thank you, Your Honor. Oena, would you call yourself a bon vivant, a happy person?

Eloi: I am one of he happy people, the beautiful ones. I never worry about tomorrow.

Me: Do you have any ability to maintain the machinery or infrastructure that provides for you your living? Do you have the self-discipline it takes to study engineering or mechanics?

Eloi: I am not sure what those words mean. Would you like some fruit?

Me: Where does the fruit you eat come from, Oena?

Eloi: (shrugs).

Me: Oena, what do you do when the sun goes down?

Eloi: I go inside.

Me: Why is that, Oena?

Eloi: The dark is bad.

Me: What do you do when the Morlocks come to eat you?

Eloi: Do? I don’t do anything. I am an Eloi. I am one of he happy people, the beautiful ones.

Me: Do you take any provision for your own self defense?

Eloi: I do not understand those words. The dark is bad. I fear the dark. Let us be happy, and talk of happy things! I like fruit! I like grapes and ripe, round peaches. Would you like some fruit?

Me: What do the Eloi plan to do about the Morlocks?

Eloi: (she shrugs and smiles a charming, blank smile)

 Ladies and gentleman of the jury, Oena the Eloi does not even have a category in her mind, she does not have words or concepts for the idea of discipline, drill, training, self-command, or any other philosophical or military or engineering discipline. She is like a child, not like a grown-up. If you see similarities between her “philosophy” (I use the term loosely) and that of the opposing counsel, this is not a coincidence. The Eloi is the end product, not of natural evolution, but of philosophical evolution she is the future toward which our young hedonist friend is driving as his goal. She is his exemplar, what he wants to be, whether he knows it or not.

My next witness is Louis Wu from AD 2850.

Mr. Wu, please tell the Jury your name and occupation.

Wu: Well, you just told them my name, son. Um. I am sort of between jobs at the moment.

Me: Why is that? Do you come from a future possessed of such economic efficiency that minimal work produces maximal output, and  the noble worker has been supplanted by the noble bon vivant, and discipline is finally recognized as the anachronism it is?

Wu: Don’t be a tanjit ass, boy. I am a …  wirehead.

Me: Please speak up for the jury.

Wu (louder): I said I am a wirehead!

Me: Your ancestors here in the 21st Century might not know what that is. Could you explain the technology?

Wu: I got this tanj wire in my head. I can send a jolt to the pleasure center of my brain whenever I want. Now, I got it on a timer, see, so I don’t give myself too much for too long. Otherwise you forget to eat and stuff. I got to remember to keep myself clean and depilated. Once your stop caring about that stuff, it’s bad. Can’t let your teeth go bad, otherwise toothache will drive you back into the wire. When infection starts near the skull jack, it can get inflamed, the flesh, and you don’t want gangrene.

Me: What is the leading cause of death in wireheads?

Wu:  Most of us die of simple infection. Or diarrhea. Or dehydration. Tanj sots don’t have the get-up to go over the sink and get themselves a sip of water, so they die. Die smiling. That’s why you got to keep yourself clean. Originally, I was taking out the wire four hours a time. That’s the way to do it. I got to get back to that regimen. Some day soon, I’ll start cutting back. Maybe come New Year. Or my birthday.

Me: How many hours a day do you spend under the wire, Mr. Wu?

Wu: I was doing four-on and four-off. Now it is more like twelve hours a stretch, and then a little when I get up, and a little more before I turn in. So, call it nineteen-ish. About twenty hours a day. I sleep five, or less. Not an active life, so I don’t need much sleep.

Me: And what are your ambitions for the future, Mr. Wu.

Wu: I got no future. I am a tanjit wirehead, didn’t you hear me? I am addicted to this wire.

Me: Are you happy?

Wu: Are you nuts? I only got this was because some freak with a tasp zapped me when I was feeling particularly low. The jolt made me happy. It’s pure pleasure. Better than lovemaking, better than whiskey, better than food. It’s pure. It’s pure pleasure. Of course I am not happy. I am trying to beg enough change from passers by to buy a gun so as I can shoot myself. I tried slitting my wrists with a piece of glass I found in the garbage dump where I live.

No, not where I live. Where I sleep.

Anyway, I bled a bit, but it just made me weak, and bugs came out to lick the bloodstain on my mat. Got to clean it. It’s important to keep yourself clean. Maybe come New Year, I’ll get to the washroom, wash the mat. Or get a new mat. Wow. That would be something. A mat that did not smell of piss. I’d like that.

Me: And yet you have achieved the sum of human ambition: you have pure pleasure whenever you desire.

Wu: What am I, a pig in a sty? I am a human being, tanjit, Or I was. Once. I was a spacer. I’ve discovered thingsI’ve seen things you would not believe. Trinocs gambling over a black hole. A Protector artifact larger than worlds. A flotilla of planets fleeing from a dying galaxy.

Me: What would it take to get you to put aside your addiction and ship out into space again, to see those things that filled you with such wonder?

Wu: I’d have to get control of myself.

Me: Self-discipline, in other words?

Wu: Call it what you like. I call it being a man.

Me: But why seek these wonders, why discipline yourself, why control your life and achieve your ambitions? After all, the satisfaction of your desires will merely give you pleasure, and if pleasure is the fountainhead and mainspring of human action, you already have that? What is the difference between the pleasure you get finding some new world, and the pleasure you get from your wire implant?

Wu: How would you like a punch in the nose?

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, if pleasure were the source of happiness, Louis Wu would be happy. In fact, pleasure as such, pure pleasure, is insufficient. His rational mind, his human side of himself, remembers the great deeds he did, and so he knows that some things have a value in and of themselves.

Some things are worthy and fitting to do, ladies and gentlemen, whether they give us pleasure or not. There are some things we ought to like even if we do not, at the moment, like them. We humans have some control, not as much as we should like, but still, some, to train ourselves to like those things we ought to like.

When we take pleasure in noble things, our appetites are rightly ordered. When we take pleasure in perverted things, our appetites are disordered. This is an error in the appetites just as much as a logical contradiction is an error in the reason. Our reason will tell us what things we ought to like and ought not to like, even if the pleasure center of our brain tells us nothing.

If the opposing counsel is correct, and pleasure is the yardstick of moral goodness, then there is no such thing as a disordered pleasure. Discontent is caused only by the reason being unwilling to accept the dictates of the appetites. If the appetite is never wrong, then reason is wrong when it disagrees with the appetite. In such a case, to achieve contentment, the logical thing to do, if appetite is the standard and reason has no role aside from serving it, would be (instead of cleaning himself up and breaking his addiction) for for Louis Wu to get a lobotomy, and erase from his memory the tormenting thoughts of what the life of a man of ambition and accomplishment should be.

My purpose in calling Louis Wu is merely to show that the pleasure center tells us what is pleasing, and does not tell us what we should find pleasing. He is an example of a man whose appetites, his pleasure center, and his reason, his sense of how a man should live to be called a man, are sharply enough divorced that the distinction between them is clear.

Me: Ladies and gentleman of the jury, my third witness is Epictetus.

Master, please introduce yourself to the jury.

Epictetus: I am man, which means, a rational animal. Within me are the faculties of reason, of will, and of impulse.

Me: Very interesting Mr. Epictetus. Would you call yourself a philosopher?

Epictetus: Let no man be called a philosopher until he is dead. If he cannot die unmoved, without fear and without recriminations, we do not know if he is in truth a philosopher.

Me: Someone has asked whether there is any need for discipline. If he were to ask you this, how should you answer him?

Epictetus: I would ask him, slave, how do you want me to answer you?

Me: What do you mean, sir?

Epictetus: Should I reason about an answer, and speak the truth, whether it is pleasing or unpleasing, bitter or sweet? Or should I avoid the strain and trouble of reasoning, and merely answer whatever first comes to my lips, and causes me pleasure to speak, and him pleasure to hear?

Me: I assume if he wants a true answer and a wise answer, if even the answer is difficult.

Epictetus: What makes difficult answers difficult?

Me: I am not sure, sir. Some things are unpleasant to hear, even if they are true, and some things are complex issues requiring patient study to reduce to a clear answer.

Epictetus: So to answer these questions requires putting aside pleasure for a time, in order to discover truth?

Me: To me, it seems so, at least.

Epictetus: So I would ask your someone how he came by his conclusion, whether by philosophy, or some other discipline? And when he had no answer for me, I will say to him, so you see that discipline is necessary, for without it you cannot even answer this question, whether discipline is necessary or not. 

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the reason why I address my comments to you, and not to my worthy opposing counsel, is that if he is correct that discipline and self-control is an anachronism, and if he intends his comment to apply to himself, then he confesses he does not have the mental integrity and tenacity, the manhood, the discipline needed to contemplate my words objectively and render a fair and impartial verdict on their truth. He says, in effect, that he is not worth talking to. I take him at his word, and no longer address my comments to him.

But if he is not correct, and he thinks about what I have said, and answers in a way that shows intellectual discipline, a careful argument or a reasoned response, then this acts as an admission fatal to his argument.

If discipline is necessary for philosophy, it is necessary for other arts, sciences, crafts and forms of labor. The hired hand hand needs discipline to remove a stump from a field the farmer means to plow. Now, with more advanced tools, stump removal becomes easier, and certain tasks that never could have been contemplated become possible. The efficiency of the labor is the ratio between input and output; the future we can envision is one where one workman, equipped with some machinery of cunning design, will be able to throw a mountain into the sea. All this means is that a hired hand will be set the task of moving asteroids, moons, and planets to more pleasant prospects, one mountain at a time.

Hedonism is a philosophy fit for Saturday night, when the work is done, and the wine flows free. On Sunday morning, we need a more stoical philosophy, something fit for grown-ups.  

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Clive Thompson

Posted January 21, 2008 By John C Wright

Mr. Thompson explains why Science Fiction is the last bastion of the philosophical novel. His theory: you cannot explore a system without being free to experiment with its parameters.
He does not carry the theory as far as G.K. Chesterton would have done. Chesterton would have come up with some droll expression to capture the paradox that the only way to map with harsh realities of the real world was with the atlas from Elfland, the only vantage to see the world as a whole was the moon, the only way to see what whatever is, is so, is to imagine, what if it were not so?
Mr. Thompson mentions a tale by Mr. Doctorow that reminds me quite strongly of A FOR ANYTHING by Daimon Knight. The answer of those authors in both cases is the came. Both Mr. Doctorow and Mr. Knight assume that a matter replicator would lead to war.

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